andy watson
Moderator
Ok no worries,
I will call them tomorrow and arrange viewing.
S or 2.7? Opinions please
- Thread starter WBray
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Ok no worries,
I will call them tomorrow and arrange viewing.
WBray
New member
Well not going to go for the black one now 
even though it's my preferred colour and a nice dark interior, just phoned them up and had a nice quick honest conversation with the guy and apparently the lower part of the front bumper, bonnet and lower part of both wings can all do with work being done to them which he reckons could cost a bit of money.
even though it's my preferred colour and a nice dark interior, just phoned them up and had a nice quick honest conversation with the guy and apparently the lower part of the front bumper, bonnet and lower part of both wings can all do with work being done to them which he reckons could cost a bit of money.
andy watson
Moderator
Will,
I have called the garage and told them I am coming to look at the car and why, only trouble is the car is not under over and the rain ha not stopped all morning and it's not just drizzle!
Forecast is saying dry after 3pm if not will try again tomorrow, don't see much point looking at it in this weather for you?
I have called the garage and told them I am coming to look at the car and why, only trouble is the car is not under over and the rain ha not stopped all morning and it's not just drizzle!
Forecast is saying dry after 3pm if not will try again tomorrow, don't see much point looking at it in this weather for you?
andy watson
Moderator
Hi Will, ok went and had a look - finally the rain eased.
Unfortunately the car was not clean as had been used before Xmas by the seller who enjoyed driving it is first 944 experience, it appears to be an honest car, last owner's 3rd car - family man changed it for a volvo so as to get the kids in.
MOT - October with No advisories
Tax - March
6 Owners
Last Service - 20/4/12 @ 155,561
Belts changed -3/4/10 @ 149,000
Major Service - 3/4/10 @ 149,00
New Clutch - 2005
Service book fully stamped by mainly independent's and Hometune
Large folder of paperwork
Options sticker present in rear
Had rear bumper painted - invoice in folder
All internal seams appear original
No obvious dents / scratches (but not able to really see as dirty)
Leather in good condition
Carpets not worn
10 speaker option fitted
Front seats have electric lift/lower, manual fore & aft
Rear hatch lifts on its own when operating electric release
Gear change very easy and smooth, not notchy at all
Requires New Battery - Advised by seller
Steering wheel looks dyed (too brighter blue)
Dash has 3 small cracks over centre vents
Rear blind does not retract
Sunroof sits about 3-5mm high at back when closed
O/S door mirror glass appears to be proud of base slightly
N/S carpet and foam coming away from fixing between door and bonnet pull
Drivers side carpet under mat slightly damp
Passenger side carpet under mat and sill carpet damp
Bottom of N/S wing rusting
Noise from rear O/S brake
Pulls to left only when you let go of the steering wheel (maybe tyre pressure)
Front tyres I would guess 3-4mm tread - unknown brand of tyre
Rear tyres on wear limit - Kumho
Engine noise seems slightly noisy at front of cam tower on tickover to me, not tappety more mechanical ticking but maybe the 8v engine?
Car pulls ok but due to weather and water logged roads I was not able to "Drive" it there was no untoward noises or creaks in the cabin, other than the rear brake noise, a slight knock when gentle braking, no untoward mechanical noise, I did think the front end was a little sloppy into corners and under braking though (again may be tyre pressures)
Everything works as it should, and has an aftermarket alarm which also works.
Picture of bottom of Front N/S wing
Picture of Inside of N/S sill which looked "moist"
Picture of inside of O/S sill which looked dry
I think that is about it, now I am not sure what £2600 buys you in the 944 market, but my own honest opinion on this one is, had I gone to look at this today with a view of buying I would have walked away and saved a few more pennies to look at a higher priced car or offered a lot less than the asking price and would want another look when it had been cleaned.
I am not sure on how bad the sills are (others will be able to advise)
It will need the sunroof drains sorting out (although the amount of rain we have had it could have been a lot worse)
It will need 4 decent tyres
Belts need to be done ideally within the year
Front wing will need attention
Hope I have been of some help rather than a hinderance
Unfortunately the car was not clean as had been used before Xmas by the seller who enjoyed driving it is first 944 experience, it appears to be an honest car, last owner's 3rd car - family man changed it for a volvo so as to get the kids in.
MOT - October with No advisories
Tax - March
6 Owners
Last Service - 20/4/12 @ 155,561
Belts changed -3/4/10 @ 149,000
Major Service - 3/4/10 @ 149,00
New Clutch - 2005
Service book fully stamped by mainly independent's and Hometune
Large folder of paperwork
Options sticker present in rear
Had rear bumper painted - invoice in folder
All internal seams appear original
No obvious dents / scratches (but not able to really see as dirty)
Leather in good condition
Carpets not worn
10 speaker option fitted
Front seats have electric lift/lower, manual fore & aft
Rear hatch lifts on its own when operating electric release
Gear change very easy and smooth, not notchy at all
Requires New Battery - Advised by seller
Steering wheel looks dyed (too brighter blue)
Dash has 3 small cracks over centre vents
Rear blind does not retract
Sunroof sits about 3-5mm high at back when closed
O/S door mirror glass appears to be proud of base slightly
N/S carpet and foam coming away from fixing between door and bonnet pull
Drivers side carpet under mat slightly damp
Passenger side carpet under mat and sill carpet damp
Bottom of N/S wing rusting
Noise from rear O/S brake
Pulls to left only when you let go of the steering wheel (maybe tyre pressure)
Front tyres I would guess 3-4mm tread - unknown brand of tyre
Rear tyres on wear limit - Kumho
Engine noise seems slightly noisy at front of cam tower on tickover to me, not tappety more mechanical ticking but maybe the 8v engine?
Car pulls ok but due to weather and water logged roads I was not able to "Drive" it there was no untoward noises or creaks in the cabin, other than the rear brake noise, a slight knock when gentle braking, no untoward mechanical noise, I did think the front end was a little sloppy into corners and under braking though (again may be tyre pressures)
Everything works as it should, and has an aftermarket alarm which also works.
Picture of bottom of Front N/S wing
Picture of Inside of N/S sill which looked "moist"
Picture of inside of O/S sill which looked dry
I think that is about it, now I am not sure what £2600 buys you in the 944 market, but my own honest opinion on this one is, had I gone to look at this today with a view of buying I would have walked away and saved a few more pennies to look at a higher priced car or offered a lot less than the asking price and would want another look when it had been cleaned.
I am not sure on how bad the sills are (others will be able to advise)
It will need the sunroof drains sorting out (although the amount of rain we have had it could have been a lot worse)
It will need 4 decent tyres
Belts need to be done ideally within the year
Front wing will need attention
Hope I have been of some help rather than a hinderance
WBray
New member
Mate you have definitely be helpful and I really do appreciate it (if I meet you at any porsche meets I hope to attend, then I deffinitly owe you a pint or something!). Im going to go to devon and view one next week hopefully if I can so I shall keep this in mind as I look around.
thank-you again bud!
Will
thank-you again bud!
Will
andy watson
Moderator
No worries, 600 odd miles is a long way for a car that never is quite as it sounds!
Did you manage to get hold of the 911 & Porsche World mag? There is 2.7 lux Guards Red, Studio cloth trim £2750 which sounds good, recent belts and new sills 126k on clock.
Keep us up to date on your progress and Hopefuly see you in March?
Did you manage to get hold of the 911 & Porsche World mag? There is 2.7 lux Guards Red, Studio cloth trim £2750 which sounds good, recent belts and new sills 126k on clock.
Keep us up to date on your progress and Hopefuly see you in March?
WBray
New member
ye you have saved me a lot of hassle, money and time, always a shame when look and sound better than they are.
i havnt yet be pretty manic over the last few days, though shall hopefully get it in the next day or two sounds interesting and more reason to look at downloading it sooner than late.
Shall do man, fingers crossed would like to make it up if possible though got a busy few months coming up so shall be time and money dependant.
Thought once i graduated life would slow down a bit but seems to have gotten more hectic lol.
Thanks again mate
Will
i havnt yet be pretty manic over the last few days, though shall hopefully get it in the next day or two
sounds interesting and more reason to look at downloading it sooner than late.Shall do man, fingers crossed would like to make it up if possible though got a busy few months coming up so shall be time and money dependant.
Thought once i graduated life would slow down a bit but seems to have gotten more hectic lol.
Thanks again mate
Will
andy watson
Moderator
Will,
How's the search going? did the Wrexham car come to anything?
How's the search going? did the Wrexham car come to anything?
WBray
New member
Going slowly at the minute unfortunatly.
Not sure whats happening with the Wrexham car yet as I thought we pretty much had set a deal as made him an offer and he said he wasnt interested, made him a fresh offer of money + my car and he said ok come and have a look at the car, then got another email of him saying he was going to put the price of the car up as he's had interest from more people (got an "amazing" response to him trying to justify it). To which I said if he put the price up I couldnt afford it until I had sold my car which he offered me some "advice" of sell my car. Then after telling him I would contact him if I sold the car and he still had it, to which he then responded again asking for pictures of mine, which I cant do till saturday as i'm working nights again so wont have enough daylight until then as I shall be asleep.
But I have also contacted a guy in kent about seing a nice looking 2.7 soon as I shall be travelling to London for the day so shall see him first.
Also my insurance company will not let me insure the car for the last month of my policy as I would be going from a group 7 to 20 and they dont allow more than a jump of 5 insurance groups at any one time between cars. So my dad shall be taking out a classic policy to bring it home for me and then I shall have to wait a month to drive it when I do my renewal
Not sure whats happening with the Wrexham car yet as I thought we pretty much had set a deal as made him an offer and he said he wasnt interested, made him a fresh offer of money + my car and he said ok come and have a look at the car, then got another email of him saying he was going to put the price of the car up as he's had interest from more people (got an "amazing" response to him trying to justify it). To which I said if he put the price up I couldnt afford it until I had sold my car which he offered me some "advice" of sell my car. Then after telling him I would contact him if I sold the car and he still had it, to which he then responded again asking for pictures of mine, which I cant do till saturday as i'm working nights again so wont have enough daylight until then as I shall be asleep.
But I have also contacted a guy in kent about seing a nice looking 2.7 soon as I shall be travelling to London for the day so shall see him first.
Also my insurance company will not let me insure the car for the last month of my policy as I would be going from a group 7 to 20 and they dont allow more than a jump of 5 insurance groups at any one time between cars. So my dad shall be taking out a classic policy to bring it home for me and then I shall have to wait a month to drive it when I do my renewal
andy watson
Moderator
Bit of a nightmare then, it will be worth it in the end as for the car in Wrexham, forget it if a seller can't honour an agreement over the phone then you don't want to be trusting him or the car!
Did you get the magazine? If not I will post the details of the one for sale in it when I get home for you.
Did you get the magazine? If not I will post the details of the one for sale in it when I get home for you.
WBray
New member
ye bit of a nightmare but one of those things want to find myself a fairly decent example rather than a dog so take a bit more time :/
Ye wont rule it out completely but like you said does make you trust him a bit less and wander about the car, this was the email I got of him when he put the price up (even the pre xmas price bit doesnt make sense as im sure the add went up after christmas day)
I downloaded a copy to my tablet and tried ringing the guy about 4times and he's yet to answer and left a message, which is a little annoying. Thanks though bud!
Ye wont rule it out completely but like you said does make you trust him a bit less and wander about the car, this was the email I got of him when he put the price up (even the pre xmas price bit doesnt make sense as im sure the add went up after christmas day)
I downloaded a copy to my tablet and tried ringing the guy about 4times and he's yet to answer and left a message, which is a little annoying. Thanks though bud!
Copperman05
New member
What ed said... If that guy aint a car salesmen he sure knows how to talk BS like one....
Edd
Edd
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