POLL: Joint 981 Boxster Cayman Register?

[Brian Halling]

I would not like to see a joint 981/Cayman register split from the older Boxsters, for several reasons: - Whenever I consider upgrading my Boxster I place great reliance on Boxster register/forum members who have already taken the plunge. Opinions about how old and new models compare, what extras are worth considering, and whether the upgrade is worthwhile are invaluable. Choosing the right forum to post such comments might prove difficult after any split, and finding these posts even worse. - As an active member of the Boxster register for the last thirteen years I have made many friends, so it would be sad if I was obliged to change my register whenever I upgraded my model. - Nobody should underestimate the cultural difference between the soft-top and hardtop brigades, so a 981/Cayman amalgamation would surely be a shotgun marriage. After working my way through this thread I was saddened that what began as a simple proposition about realigning the register/forum structure became so unpleasantly vitriolic that much worthwhile debate sank without trace. I believe that our forum should stimulate lively discussion, and not require the prior approval of register secretaries, club directors or senior worthies before any potentially contentious issues can be given an airing.

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: flat6 Thanks Paul. I appreciate that. I understand the point to which you are responding, and to be fair to you, the main points where it got de-railed were posts #2, #24 and another post of the same flavour as #24 that has since been deleted, which wasn't by you either. All's well that ends well.

Hi Cecil and all (just missed your post Brian) Re: Post 2 apologies about coming across as being direct, but as you were referring to 'Register Merging' there has been much debate over the years and always it's been a highly contentious topic, common sense never seems to come into play. So I felt the sensible thing to do was for you to speak to the Register Secretaries first as it's their call before we ended up in tears with us SHOUTING (sorry example) again. (My response to your original post beat Paul's by a fraction) btw: I really don't know why the club leapt to creating a 991 register almost before the car was launched, wasn't as the members asked. I believe Ken ran the registers then so he would be placed placed to answer this. I an inclined to believe there was an external request. Re: Post 24 - I did warn about being harsh, a thread hijack perhaps in the previous. But with the new forum coming on-line search will work better for common topics. Anyhow, on a more positive note Tracy has suggested that we have a technical area for the Boxster, I am also in favour of this as it will mean my in-box gets a rest from the general chat (you know the one) [] and I can respond to the technical (Boxster related) issues owners have. With the implementation of the new forum imminent (week or so I believe) we will add it then rather than now. Please don't ask me for a Spyder sub-forum (not person to ask), and in any case you only seem to need one thread []

 

[ralphmusic]

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA in-box gets a rest from the general chat

It seems possible to remove individual threads within a subscribed Forum - Go to My Profile/My Subscription/Subscribed Threads (at the bottom) then locate Forum containing the thread you no longer want to get notifications from, find the particular thread/s you want to unsubscribe from, uncheck the "Subscribe" and "Get Mail" boxes hit "OK" right at the bottom and enjoy the peace and quiet.. The Subscriptions appear to operate at two levels, first by Forum all threads, then secondly with greater granularity at the thread level. Seems to work for me...

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA in-box gets a rest from the general chat

It seems possible to remove individual threads within a subscribed Forum - Go to My Profile/My Subscription/Subscribed Threads (at the bottom) then locate Forum containing the thread you no longer want to get notifications from, find the particular thread/s you want to unsubscribe from, uncheck the "Subscribe" and "Get Mail" boxes hit "OK" right at the bottom and enjoy the peace and quiet.. The Subscriptions appear to operate at two levels, first by Forum all threads, then secondly with greater granularity at the thread level. Seems to work for me...

I tried that sometime ago, it didn't work at the time ...... so off to try it again ..... (I sense a period of calm aka the inbox may go quiet) Fingers crossed ....... you do realise though if it works you are less likely to get my vote on a separate sub-sub-sub-wrong-wheels-spyder-forum as I no longer need the 'off switch' []

 

[ralphmusic]

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA I tried that sometime ago, it didn't work at the time ...... so off to try it again ..... (I sense a period of calm aka the inbox may go quiet)

I tried a couple of times before it seemed to "take" so be patient grasshopper

Fingers crossed ....... you do realise though if it works you are less likely to get my vote on a separate sub-sub-sub-wrong-wheels-spyder-forum as I no longer need the 'off switch'

I called Chris Seaward as invited and chatted through my views - much calmer than forum flares. Suggest others do also.

 

[rob.kellock]

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA Please don't ask me for a Spyder sub-forum (not person to ask), and in any case you only seem to need one thread []

[] Just out of interest - who should we ask? Not saying I'm going to - the Spydermen would lynch me. Only want a sub sub sub sub wrong seats thread []

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA Please don't ask me for a Spyder sub-forum (not person to ask), and in any case you only seem to need one thread []

[] Just out of interest - who should we ask? Not saying I'm going to - the Spydermen would lynch me. Only want a sub sub sub sub wrong seats thread []

It's Tracy's call (I read you have the right wheels (in someones opinion) therefore have no interest in that sub-sub-sub-wrong-wheels forum [])

 

[rob.kellock]

Cheers Nick. I have the "right" seats too. Which have so far proved successful in having no heating facilities on cold days and rendered the car impossible to enter or exit by my 92 year old Grandad who would love to be taken round his beloved Yorkshire Dales in it...

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock Cheers Nick. I have the "right" seats too. Which have so far proved successful in having no heating facilities on cold days and rendered the car impossible to enter or exit by my 92 year old Grandad who would love to be taken round his beloved Yorkshire Dales in it...

I have seen heating pads somewhere for buckets but can't help with your Grandad unless you're looking to swap seats []

 

[rob.kellock]

I couldn't possibly modify it! I'd have to swap to the modified register... []

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA Too funny [] .... you may have turned the corner and joined by mistake if you are one of those owners that have removed their 'Boxster' badge. (Off to open a de-modifed register [])

 

[flat6]

Thanks for the response Nick. I will not be asking for a Spyder sub-forum. I think the boys like the thought of extending the record breaking thread beyond reach [] It's pretty much a sub-forum already and has helped to enhance the notoriety of the car, so much so that we've earned some column space in Porsche Post on occasion [] We just need to turn a few more of the Spyder men into paying Club members[] Brian, thanks for your input to the 981 question.

 

[rob.kellock]

Ooh, freaky. Nick has the power to enter my post! De-modify that! My car is proudly badged as a Boxster Spyder. May buy a Cayman and a Speedster badge and stick them on just to confuse people.

 

[Nick_USA]

Sorry meant to hit "quote" rather than edit ... Moderator finger trouble (Sorted .... ish)

 

[rob.kellock]

He's got the power! [][][]

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: Brian Halling I would not like to see a joint 981/Cayman register split from the older Boxsters, for several reasons: - Whenever I consider upgrading my Boxster I place great reliance on Boxster register/forum members who have already taken the plunge. Opinions about how old and new models compare, what extras are worth considering, and whether the upgrade is worthwhile are invaluable. Choosing the right forum to post such comments might prove difficult after any split, and finding these posts even worse. - As an active member of the Boxster register for the last thirteen years I have made many friends, so it would be sad if I was obliged to change my register whenever I upgraded my model. - Nobody should underestimate the cultural difference between the soft-top and hardtop brigades, so a 981/Cayman amalgamation would surely be a shotgun marriage.

Now we have some clear air we can actually debate [] I hear you Brian and I don't know what the right answer is. My thinking was that from the car rather than cultural point of view, no-one has suggested separating the 997 coupe and cabriolet models, because they are both called 911. Likewise 991, 993 etc.etc. coupe and cabriolet. I imagine that if Porsche for some marketing reason in the future decided to drop the Cayman name and call it 'Boxster Coupe', that'd really set the cat amongst the pigeons [] Personally I think the 991 has benefited from having its own register. It started off very quiet until the numbers built up and no doubt a lot of the owners are ex-997. But it seems to be thriving now, more than I see 981 owner presence in the boxster and cayman register sections talking about 981. I do acknowledge though that because there are many more 991 variants than 981, which just has S and non-S, then there is probably more to talk about 991 than 981. Maybe that's a good reason not to split them. Maybe they're just so good that the owners are always out enjoying their cars or maybe I miss the 981 threads as I tend to stay in the Spyder section[] As I say, there's no right or wrong answer and just wanted to see what others thought. I don't own one so haven't been consciously monitoring the register activity on 981, just comparing it to how much I read in the 991 register.

 

[Motorhead]

You've made some very valid points here and in previous posts on the subject 6. Maybe I just blinked, but I don't recall such a hullabaloo occuring when the 991 Register and Forum were opened..! Just to add that with 981 Boxster/Cayman sales accelerating (1933 in November 2013 compared with almost 3000 991s), this matter is something which will, I think, have to be addressed sooner rather than later; otherwise, what happens further down the road when we have a 982, 983, etc., and the Register secretaries are overloaded? Even if a 981 Register is off the cards at the moment, the creation of a 981 Forum would appear to be very much in line with what's happened for the different 911 types. As a final shot, I note that our new PP editor-at-large, Chris Horton, has asked that we make our copy "a little less parochial". Let's all keep an open mind on this forum too. Jeff

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I'm constantly battling, and failing, to keep the number of forum areas down. We can't get moderators, even ROs and RSs aren't active on their own areas in some cases, and it adds confusion. Where does a new member post his engine question: the mechanical forum, specific Register forum, or general forum? They usually pick the wrong one, and posts have to be shuffled around by the mods (if we even spot them). The poll on Pistonheads at the moment shows 80% in favour of one forum for all Porsche categories. We are now nearing 150 forum areas here, it's ridiculous! I think it would be good to go through and dramatically reduce the forums. For instance, the 924, 968 and 928 areas are very quiet, so why not have one forum for them with the closely-related 944s? There are plenty of similar groups, where forums with little traffic could join the busier ones to everyone's benefit. [8|] No more new ones, please! [&:]

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty I'm constantly battling, and failing, to keep the number of forum areas down. We can't get moderators, even ROs and RSs aren't active on their own areas in some cases, and it adds confusion. Where does a new member post his engine question: the mechanical forum, specific Register forum, or general forum? They usually pick the wrong one, and posts have to be shuffled around by the mods (if we even spot them). The poll on Pistonheads at the moment shows 80% in favour of one forum for all Porsche categories. We are now nearing 150 forum areas here, it's ridiculous! I think it would be good to go through and dramatically reduce the forums. For instance, the 924, 968 and 928 areas are very quiet, so why not have one forum for them with the closely-related 944s? There are plenty of similar groups, where forums with little traffic could join the busier ones to everyone's benefit. [8|] No more new ones, please! [&:]

8 out of 10 Porsche's surveyed that said the owners preferred it []

 

[ralphmusic]

I guess the objective should be to have the right forum structure that users and moderators want to and will support. The question is what is the process for achieving that and how can essentially minority interests be met. Simply being legacy or new is not IMHO an overwhelming argument for discrete forum presence.

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic I guess the objective should be to have the right forum structure that users and moderators want to and will support. The question is what is the process for achieving that and how can essentially minority interests be met. Simply being legacy or new is not IMHO an overwhelming argument for discrete forum presence.

The problem is also what do you do with the legacy stuff ..... I remember the uproar when posts went missing in 'Mallets Mallet', hell would freeze over if one Spyder post went missing!!!!