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POLL: Joint 981 Boxster Cayman Register?

I have a different take on this. Separate registers, but on the forum we could use shared technical areas. The 996, 986, 987, 997 cars are so similar that hosting the technical questions/FAQ's etc in one forum area would allow for the shared knowledge to be maximised. Similarly the 981/991 could benefit from sharing a technical area. Thoughts?
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 There was a chap with a yellow 981 who I think came from a Ferrari but I could be mistaken. Was his name John. Can't recall as he hasn't been on for some time.
Derek Sharpe[;)] Dave[:D][:D][:D] Trigger is possibly most famous because he calls Rodney Trotter "Dave", even though everybody else calls him Rodney. Rodney discusses this with Trigger in "Homesick", and he agrees to stop, but a few seconds later he calls him it again. When Cassandra Trotter, Rodney's wife, announced she was pregnant in "Modern Men", everybody raised a toast and said "To Cassandra and Rodney", but Trigger can be heard saying "Cassandra and Dave" after everyone else has spoken. At another point, while discussing Del and Raquel's son, Trigger claims that they may name the baby "Rodney, after Dave".
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ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett I have a different take on this. Separate registers, but on the forum we could use shared technical areas. The 996, 986, 987, 997 cars are so similar that hosting the technical questions/FAQ's etc in one forum area would allow for the shared knowledge to be maximised.
You're kidding us right (yes and this is meant to be harsh) - Example So tiptronic on an early 986 is the same as PDK with Sports+ in a Gen 2 997 .... Not!
ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett Similarly the 981/991 could benefit from sharing a technical area. Thoughts?
No Mark - Current example, do 981s have centre locking wheels - no, does a 981 have 4 wheel drive - no, does the 981 have active rear wheel steering - no. Do the 981 and 991 share the same radio - yes but that is also fitted to the late Gen 2 987 and 997; there is already an underused 'Electrics' forum. There are similar sub-forums for Body, Mechanicals and Oil & Fuel. .... and in any case 981 obviously mid-engined 991 rear engined or have you forgotten [:)]
 
As Tracy and others have said there are differences between both the cars and the owners but I'll say that where similarities exist either a Boxster owner or a Cayman owner can visit the other side to see if a similar discussion or problem exists there, so far we have stuff relevant to the Gen 1 & Gen 2 in the Cayman FAQ's, tech articles etc, as some submit their experiences and articles to be added for the 981 Cayman they will be welcome and in turn if the Boxster Forum wish to copy articles where applicable that is ok, they may also advise us of FAQ's or tech articles if they should do likewise. I prefer to keep the two registers separate, while the cars do have differences they have similarities and I'd have one of each model and each version if I could afford to since I have had a 986S and own a Cayman S gen 1. There are other similarities, front end mostly 986/996, 987/997 and 981/991 but on each side the differences of the cars and the needs of the owners also differ, that is why we chose different cars.
 
Since someone mentioned my name above I think I had better state my view. I would prefer that the Cayman and Boxster area on the Forum are separate.
 
can we just have a Spyder/ Cayman R section :) Every one knows they are the best cars, the GT3 boys have a GT3 section :-( And worse still the 964RS and 993RS have they own sections over 964 and 993 owners. o and make me the "moderater" for it thanks D
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 There was a chap with a yellow 981 who I think came from a Ferrari but I could be mistaken. Was his name John. Can't recall as he hasn't been on for some time. Would be interesting to hear what a few other 981 owners think even if online does only represent 10% of members.
Well, if you read R31 posts and many others, you will note that 'a chap with a yellow 981' is actually on the Forum most days! As for separating 981 with 986 etc, the Board was asked that years ago. The answer was NO. My point at the time was that there were countless 911 Registers; 964, 993, 996, 997, 991 etc. But Boxster 986, 987, 981 would remain as one register. Cayman would be separate. I think Porsche GB has some say in that. I also note the comment regarding no new registers. Let me tell you that there will be a Macan Register! My Macan is on it's way, but I doubt if that register will merge with Cayenne [:D]
 
You can back off Demon - me, flat6 and daro911 are having a mud wrestling fight with kitchens, jdpef356 and Andy Fagan, winner takes all for that gig. [:D]
ORIGINAL: flat6 ...So is there a benefit in helping the relatively small 981 community get together by having a joint 981 Boxster/Cayman register?
Wow, ask a polite genuine question and get SHOUTED at!! I am surprised at some of the comments on this thread. I think Flat6 raised a pretty valid question (which was really about tidying up the forum) that in itself poses wider issues for the club about how its members choose to communicate with each other. Some of us are friends on the forum, some of us are friends on Facebook. Some of us are friends in real life. Some hang out with register friends who have similar cars, others hang out regionally. Cayman R boys hang out on the Spyder thread. There is clearly and evidently no logic to the current breakdown of registers. It does seem bizarre that 996s and 997s are separated yet their coupe and convertible variants are not distinguished. Boxsters and Boxster hatchbacks are separated but 986, 987 and 981 variants are not. Whilst there is no Spyder register (I think with almost 100000 hits on our legendary thread we've earned one now) but there is one for GT3s (996 or 997, doesn't seem to matter there) but 964 RS, 993 RSs and every other conceivable variant of 911 have to be separated (except the Sports Classic but including the Speedster) ? So far as the forum is concerned we have tumbleweed blowing through the "modern" register that excludes most modern cars and the seemingly pointless all encompassing "North of England and North Wales" and "South of England" regions or the friendly "DON'T ASK QUESTIONS HERE THEY WILL BE DELETED - USER GUIDE" in the technical section, last used in 2004!! There are 14 areas of the forum devoted to each 911 niche yet all Boxsters are lumped together whether they be rusting Ă‚ÂŁ1500 ebay snotters, Ă‚ÂŁ70k worth of state of the art PDK 981S with PASM, PCM, PSM, ABS and various other acronyms or, king of the hill, Spyders! But of course, flat6 shouldn't have dared raise any of this on the forum because he should have known to ring the Register director first and / or know what decisions were made in days gone by... [8|] I say give the lad a break - he put his head above the parapet to help embrace the 981 Cayman and Cayman convertible owners, I'm sure he'll be really encouraged to put forward potentially constructive proposals in the future. Still, at least we haven't had any hairdresser gags yet [:D] Oh, and if we're having a Macan register, bearing in mind the front cover of PP today, looks like we need another one too for that new 918 model which is now available for purchase to members, can't remember what it's called though... [;)]
 
Thanks Rob and what was noteworthy for me is this. The general membership gave their opinions unassumingly. The authoritative members suggested the subject might get out of hand if conducted on-line, given their past experience of discussing it before. However, the most passionate of posts came from the same senior level of membership who anticipated that it would descend into a heated debate. That's when I switched off. It wasn't looking like it was heading that way amongst the ordinary folk out to gauge some consensus. As was later suggested, a sub-forum might be an idea. However, the atmosphere didn't lend towards any such potentially acceptable alternative ideas being explored, nor for any interest in them to measured, and the topic quickly widened from 981. It's a good club - membership benefits and discounts plus a magazine, healthy forum and most importantly great events organised by willing volunteers. The forum also depends on its willing volunteers to run it but I think the club also ticks over on the general membership and it should be possible for them to discuss at a level that isn't authoritative. You have an idea, you kick it around amongst a few and decide where to go from there. Committee members might input and advise that it's been looked at before and why it didn't proceed etc. or even take away ideas as the discussion pops up various ideas. Therefore I think the authoritative members, who understandably need to discuss things with a view to having to conclude what changes to make, shouldn't feel the need to bring that down to forum threads. If i'd have ran the thread, gathered some info and took the advice to pick up the phone, i'd leave it to those who run the club to debate it in the meeting rooms, not on-line. I do appreciate the advice that was given, but some of the advice was given in such a way that created the bad atmosphere, and then the on-line discussion was then continued by some of the advisers, in the very way the advisers had discouraged[&:]. That was surprising to be honest and that's why I switched off as I don't engage in that stuff.
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 Thanks Rob and what was noteworthy for me is this. The general membership gave their opinions unassumingly. The authoritative members suggested the subject might get out of hand if conducted on-line, given their past experience of discussing it before. However, the most passionate of posts came from the same senior level of membership who anticipated that it would descend into a heated debate. That's when I switched off. It wasn't looking like it was heading that way amongst the ordinary folk out to gauge some consensus. As was later suggested, a sub-forum might be an idea. However, the atmosphere didn't lend towards any such potentially acceptable alternative ideas being explored, nor for any interest in them to measured, and the topic quickly widened from 981. It's a good club - membership benefits and discounts plus a magazine, healthy forum and most importantly great events organised by willing volunteers. The forum also depends on its willing volunteers to run it but I think the club also ticks over on the general membership and it should be possible for them to discuss at a level that isn't authoritative. You have an idea, you kick it around amongst a few and decide where to go from there. Committee members might input and advise that it's been looked at before and why it didn't proceed etc. or even take away ideas as the discussion pops up various ideas. Therefore I think the authoritative members, who understandably need to discuss things with a view to having to conclude what changes to make, shouldn't feel the need to bring that down to forum threads. If i'd have ran the thread, gathered some info and took the advice to pick up the phone, i'd leave it to those who run the club to debate it in the meeting rooms, not on-line. I do appreciate the advice that was given, but then the on-line discussion was then continued by some of the advisers, in the very way the advisers had discouraged[&:]. That was surprising to be honest and that's why I switched off as I don't engage in that stuff.
Hear Hear flat6
 
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Wow that was severe [&:] I thought it wasn't a bad idea myself and that this was a 'forum' ( discussion board on the Internet) [8|]
Indeed it was severe. I'm heading back over to the sanctuary that is the Spyder forum[:)]
 
ORIGINAL: flat6
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Wow that was severe [&:] I thought it wasn't a bad idea myself and that this was a 'forum' ( discussion board on the Internet) [8|]
Indeed it was severe. I'm heading back over to the sanctuary that is the Spyder forum[:)]
Crickey 6....been away for the day and came back to this...! Who'd have thought that such a simple suggestion would have created such an unnecessary rumpus. I bettter not suggest combining the Cayman and Boxster forums then. Jeff
 
and then the on-line discussion was then continued by some of the advisers, in the very way the advisers had discouraged. That was surprising to be honest and that's why I switched off as I don't engage in that stuff.
You make a very good point. I apologise! [&o]
 
Thanks Paul. I appreciate that. I understand the point to which you are responding, and to be fair to you, the main points where it got de-railed were posts #2, #24 and another post of the same flavour as #24 that has since been deleted, which wasn't by you either. All's well that ends well.
 

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