Flat 6 valuation
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OK .. get rid off the rear spoiler, those awful seats and return the "look" to normal, is that a 9M engine[
] otherwise with the aforementioned done it will look standardedish ... oh and take those side stickers off .... []
] otherwise with the aforementioned done it will look standardedish ... oh and take those side stickers off .... []
Hang on!...Mr "Modified register secretary" are you seriously suggesting reverting the car back to standard specification!!?? [ORIGINAL: carreraboy OK .. get rid off the rear spoiler, those awful seats and return the "look" to normal, is that a 9M engine[
] It all gets a bit confusing sometimes! []
There is modifying and there is modifying ... each to their own but .... [&o]
From the auction details; 260 bhp, 3,600 cc air-cooled flat six-cylinder engine with Bosch fuel injection, five-speed manual transmission, independent front suspension and rear suspension, and four-wheel hydraulic disc brakes with ABS. Wheelbase: 2,272 mm A highly original example of the 964 series Carrera RS Known history and under 12,000 kilometres from new Features desirable factory bucket seats and magnesium wheels One of 290 examples built. Really? Do they think most of the buyers of these cars at current high-er prices have no clue or do any research?ORIGINAL: rs phil Rm auctions,rs should be up in about 1 hour or so,,interesting to see if it will go for more than€150-€190 I'm hoping around €220 [
Does that mean all 12k 3 owners carpet are worth 270k euro now LHD, presume the car is an original panel car ...
We clearly have segregated markets here, cars such as this are bought as commodities or somewhere to "put" money in the current low rate / returns environment. This is rare classic cars being commoditised as an asset class, rather than owned by an enthusiast to drive. The low miles and lack of use in this case is clearly seen as a positive thing. The spread between these rare examples of already rare models is likely to stay wide or widen with the collector mentality. Will this car even be driven? Was the price relevant to the buyer?..maybe they can drop €200k+ without much if any change in his/her financial circumstances. I would be amazed if the new owner appears on an enthusiast forum such as this, asking if he can take part in the top mount group buy or "will fitting 993 front struts stop my car bouncing around on the back roads near Nice?"
Back on topic --- 3.8 is a barrel change, engine bits are nice if it is going to be driven, but it's been modified to something that it never was. And it's real value is in what it was ... So, the future owner will either return it to original and take the pain (and the cost) of finding original parts, or accept it for what it is and drive it. Which at the performance level of which it is capable, will be pretty expensive ! Two good engines were blown up at Croft yesterday ... meet 2 of the Porsche Club Championship season !!
jason
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That's right Paul. There are a few ex-Chinese guys just buying up anything with near delivery mileage on them and storing them in HK at the minute. Price is not relevant... They are doing the same with watches, art, vases etc etc Perhaps it is a way of securing your assets out of sight and out of bank accounts should things change politically....?ORIGINAL: clubsport We clearly have segregated markets here, cars such as this are bought as commodities or somewhere to "put" money in the current low rate / returns environment. This is rare classic cars being commoditised as an asset class, rather than owned by an enthusiast to drive. The low miles and lack of use in this case is clearly seen as a positive thing. The spread between these rare examples of already rare models is likely to stay wide or widen with the collector mentality. Will this car even be driven? Was the price relevant to the buyer?..maybe they can drop €200k+ without much if any change in his/her financial circumstances. I would be amazed if the new owner appears on an enthusiast forum such as this, asking if he can take part in the top mount group buy or "will fitting 993 front struts stop my car bouncing around on the back roads near Nice?"
Do I gather it was a narrow body 3,6 originally Chris? Clubsport/Jason Low mileage original panel cars have always held a premium, but makes little sense, surely the vlaue is is ultimately in the chassis and numbers matching, for £50,000 you can have a brand new car refurb at the factory with a zero miles clock!!! To me, and excuse my obvious lack of fund managing degrees, but a well used RS, which is still running at the bottom end of the price chain, can be used, enjoyed, tracked (don't crash it) day in day out and when it's time to hang up your truss, send it done the factory for the full monty, and hey presto new car. These so call investors fail to understand the sturdiness (no pun) of these cars and are use to collecting Red delicate Fezzas, so there never should be much more than a 50k spread between garage queen and well used, then there are the total write offs, which again you have the chassis number for a total new car build say £150K, but on the whole these cars are pretty interchangeable and not a soft fezza ... so investors I would be a bit aware[]
]Fair play well said....£50 k not bad if car was in bad state ,and then like new ......I would never be able to use that car with such low miles....ORIGINAL: carreraboy Do I gather it was a narrow body 3,6 originally Chris? Clubsport/Jason Low mileage original panel cars have always held a premium, but makes little sense, surely the vlaue is is ultimately in the chassis and numbers matching, for £50,000 you can have a brand new car refurb at the factory with a zero miles clock!!! To me, and excuse my obvious lack of fund managing degrees, but a well used RS, which is still running at the bottom end of the price chain, can be used, enjoyed, tracked (don't crash it) day in day out and when it's time to hang up your truss, send it done the factory for the full monty, and hey presto new car. These so call investors fail to understand the sturdiness (no pun) of these cars and are use to collecting Red delicate Fezzas, so there never should be much more than a 50k spread between garage queen and well used, then there are the total write offs, which again you have the chassis number for a total new car build say £150K, but on the whole these cars are pretty interchangeable and not a soft fezza ... so investors I would be a bit aware[
I think the investors need to catch on pretty quick how these cars can be rejuvenated and used, IMHO makes them worth more than the delicate other perceived low mile gargae queens, The RS never meant to be a Gargae Queen, the Fezza is expected to be one, then kept relatively unused especially the older ones[ORIGINAL: rs philFair play well said....£50 k not bad if car was in bad state ,and then like new ......I would never be able to use that car with such low miles....ORIGINAL: carreraboy Do I gather it was a narrow body 3,6 originally Chris? Clubsport/Jason Low mileage original panel cars have always held a premium, but makes little sense, surely the vlaue is is ultimately in the chassis and numbers matching, for £50,000 you can have a brand new car refurb at the factory with a zero miles clock!!! To me, and excuse my obvious lack of fund managing degrees, but a well used RS, which is still running at the bottom end of the price chain, can be used, enjoyed, tracked (don't crash it) day in day out and when it's time to hang up your truss, send it done the factory for the full monty, and hey presto new car. These so call investors fail to understand the sturdiness (no pun) of these cars and are use to collecting Red delicate Fezzas, so there never should be much more than a 50k spread between garage queen and well used, then there are the total write offs, which again you have the chassis number for a total new car build say £150K, but on the whole these cars are pretty interchangeable and not a soft fezza ... so investors I would be a bit aware[
] 964RS Rule OK[]
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