997 BUYING GUIDE.

[Naworlien]

997 Carrera s coupe 65k miles 2005 plate dealer reckons liner required on 2 cylinders. Hartech 2 cylinders say for approx values 2k

prob got scoring and got broken pistons. But it just says lining

16k. No chance on the repairs. If it was under 10k it would be worth spending the rebuild cost maybe

any ideas . But it sounds like not worth it

 

[Naworlien]

Cheers clive

thought it was not worth the hassel

cheers neil

 

[drewbuckley]

Hi everyone, I've "outgrown" my Boxster (currently for sale) and am searching for a 997.2 C2 or C2S but wondered if I am looking for a unicorn with the spec I'd like (PDK, Sport Chrono, Sports Exhaust, Sport Suspension - 20mm lower? & LSD).

I don't suppose anyone has access to know how many were made for UK with that spec in '08/09/10? If possible how many were not white!! I'd rather hold out for the right spec but if it's such a small market then I'll bend on the spec a bit!

Any advice welcome!

 

[Dylan1]

Your best bet would be to look for a GTS as most likely f those options were standard
theyll hold onto value better too

 

[Seabox]

Higher rate car tax is only for cars registered after 23 March 2006 because this was the dates of the budget that changed the pricing of the CO2 bands. My 2005 C2S is £290.

 

[Seabox]

Thank you Clive, that is what our Club is all about-helping fellow Members to avoid pitfalls as there are many 'bargains' out there! My basic message is to get it inspected BEFORE you buy-the cost is usually out weighed by the prior knowledge of any potential issues i.e. coolant pipes are a common replacement and it's not cheap! I'm hoping other Register Secretaries follow you and the Cayman,928 and others who have compiled a useful guide to Porsche ownership.
Albert Walsh
Register Director

Jeez, Albert, its hard to believe you would write stuff like this without doing a tiny bit of research on other Registers .. please check out the dates on the 993 Register buying guide, along with a diaspora of Tech Articles and FAQs. Others to follow were 996 and 964 Registers, mostly written before Caymans were invented, for Chr1$t$ $ake.

No, I'm not bitter .. but I get tired of this s0rt of sh1t, which seems to get perpetuated by self-aggrandising social climbers, in which description I don't include Clive ..
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cheers, Maurice

My 2005 C2s had a full inspection and came from a reputable dealer however; the coolant leaks were not detected as they are difficult to spot with out removing underside panelling etc. In a car that has been exposed to the uk climate it is fair to assume that some form of corrosion and therefore leakage will have taken place and therefore will need budgeting for. The cayman register has a great write up on how to fix this.

 

[AndrewGodman]

Hi

Does anyone have any thoughts on Porsche 997 values. Have they still got further to fall or are they close to the bottom / on the way up?

Also looking at buying a Gen 2 997 C2S or C4S. Is this a good idea as an everyday car covering 15,000 miles a year or should I factor a second car into my budget?


Thanks

Andy

 

[raykelly]

I feel they're are pretty strong. I would say my car has maybe dropped £1k or so, since I bought it a year ago. Mine is a 997.2 C2. Unlike my wifes car which has dropped 5k

Have done 9kmiles and easier to run than my old BM. If i was parking in a lot of public carparks, I would have to get a second car for peace of mind.

I would say the 4s will hold its money the best but ive seen prices compared to last year of around 3k difference. So my thoughts are completely of!

Strong prices are not important to me as Im hoping to keep my car. Though I wish the prices would fall so I could get my hands on a turbo ??

Good luck in your purchase! exciting times!

 

[michaelquinlan]

As a GT2 owner I am surprised prices have stayed so moderate in the face of all the 911 escalation.
I would say a great buy at current levels. Most are still very low miles and little sign of over-enthusiastic tracking.

I have tracked mine about once a year but the car is bigger than most available tracks so I doubt there will have been excessive wear and tear. Important not to use all the brakes all the time on-track as that will run them ragged to the tune of £10,000ish - no disc can stand race-type use for very long. At 24,000 mine are not showing significant wear.

Don't ask to buy mine. It is a joy and a real keeper.

 

[awwalker1]

Good evening from a brand new PCGB member and Forum reader. I am finding the various threads full of very informative comment and insight! My current situation is 'pre-first time 997 purchase' with time at T minus about 9 months if things go to plan. The purchase fund is not doing too badly and the buying guide on this Forum is greatly appreciated, as the risks to a 911 novice are of course many and varied. One area on which I am finding it tricky to make a judgement is on the insurance side of things. I spoke to Lockton's recently in the hope of getting at least some guidance or a 'ball park' figure, but received a very firm dismissal. If the proposed 997 is the first high-performance car you've owned (and it will be) then you have to go elsewhere. So I retired hurt. I'm wondering how fellow PCGB members started out. Is it a case of going down the conventional route and starting with one of the familiar 'high street' names, or does one persist with one of the companies that promote themselves as specialists? Would I be just as well advised to talk to LV, Aviva, MoreThan, and the like? I should add that the car will not be a daily driver. It could do around 5,000 miles per annum or thereabouts but would be stored under cover in between outings. The wisdom of readers out there will be hugely valued.

 

[Jdhughes01]

Hi Welcome to the forum
I cannot comment on Locktons poor customer service and I am not aware of your claims status. However for fixed mileage (5000 miles) and no intention to use on track days I can recommend LVE for a competitive quote. My insurance premium on my 997.2 is less than my newer Jaguar XFS and I have always found their customer service to be exemplar. i wasn't asked if I had driven a high performance car!
JDH

 

[awwalker1]

John - many thanks. That is a very helpful recommendation and gives me something to work from. I am looking at a Gen II 997 (non-Turbo) also. Regards, Andrew

 

[Motorhead]

Hi Andrew,

You don't give an indication of your age or driving experience - both of which will have some bearing on an insurance quote - but I think you're probably better going to a specialist insurer. Because I require track day cover I've used Manning UK and currently I'm with Classic Line, both of which I would recommend, but you may find it useful to test the water by getting some quotes first from the "majors" for comparison.

Good luck with your search.

Jeff

 

[Lancerlot]

Plenty of info on this thread https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=714611. Also try Aon Private Clients, Porsche Insurance (Marsh) and NFU Mutual.
Regards,
Clive

 

[Jay911]

Hey Andrew

welcome to the forums.

I've just bought my first Porsche a 991 and I just used the moneysupermarket and compare the market websites as I've done with all my cars to get insurance quotes, and I got a great deal. I really don't understand why people use specialised companies for insurance unless they want cover for track day use, but maybe I'm missing something?

Jay

 

[Motorhead]

Jay,

In general I'm in agreement with what you say. The comparison websites are an excellent starting point to gauge what price you need to pay for car insurance. However, as always it's important to read the fine print when selecting a policy especially when it comes to repairs after an accident. Of course, you can choose your repairer but some companies specify that they won't necessarily use genuine replacement parts, even stating that they could use second-hand parts, so you could end up having an argument with them if you you want your car repaired to Porsche recommended standards.

An advantage of using a specialist company is that they can customise a policy for you to take into account such things as track day usage, agreed value, limited mileage, choice of repairer, etc. This is especially useful for slightly older vehicles like my 8-year old Cayman, and my Classic Line policy includes all these features - as well as breakdown recovery - for a very competitive price.

Jeff

 

[awwalker1]

Many thanks to everyone for their helpful comments and advice. Good question about age and driving experience - well I can say that I passed my test as a teenager in 1980! But also fair to say that I have only ever driven conventional cars, though I did have a Golf GTi at the age of 24 so I suppose in risk profile terms that was in the 'amber' category if a traffic light analogy is at all applicable. Clive - I will look at the info on the thread you mention as well. This is all new territory but I've got plenty to go at now...thanks to all once again!

 

[Pokhara]

I'm new to PCGB and joined with a view to gaining information ahead of my intended purchase of a Gen2 997, 2S/4S.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on my intended purchase and also recommendations for decent specialist retailers. Paragon and RSJ I'm aware of. Are these any good: and are there any more that you'd recommend please?

 

[garyw]

Wait until your magazine comes through- there's usually plenty of traders advertising in there.

 

[tscaptain]

I'm new to PCGB and joined with a view to gaining information ahead of my intended purchase of a Gen2 997, 2S/4S.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on my intended purchase and also recommendations for decent specialist retailers. Paragon and RSJ I'm aware of. Are these any good: and are there any more that you'd recommend please?

Welcome! Porsche Centres are also decent specialist retailers! The cars they sell come with the added benefit of a 2 year warranty but they may cost a bit more. Have you tried any yet to get an idea of what you prefer? Manual v PDK for example?