991.2 GTS

[john synnuck]

For the 2gts and johns 4gts above, what spec/colour did you gents order?
Does anyone have a view on front lift system? Is this required on an occasional use car?

Cheers

Hi
Coupe 4GTS
OL Camine Red
GQ Alcantara Package GTS Carmine Red in conjunction with GTS interior package
638 ParkAssist front and rear with reversing camera
653 Electric slide/tilt glass sunroof
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung ( PDK)
470 Rear-axle steering
449 20inch 911 Turbo S wheels
088 GTS interior package
454 Cruise control
P13 automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
630 Light design package
489 Heated multifunction steering wheel
P05 Sports seats Plus
342 Seat heating
583 Smoking package
581 Passenger footwell storage net
9VL BOSE Surround Sound System.
Of course, still keep looking!

 

[john synnuck]

For the 2gts and johns 4gts above, what spec/colour did you gents order?
Does anyone have a view on front lift system? Is this required on an occasional use car?

Cheers

I didn't spec the front lift system as I didn't think I'd make much use of it. My current weekend car, a 981 Spyder, is, like the GTS, lowered 20mm and the only time I've had trouble with it grounding is during very spirited driving around hairpin bends in Austria, etc!

 

[cymro]

For the 2GTS.
I have stuck to the white and black combination which I presently have on my GTS. I have not gone for the front lift system, or the GTS interior package, which I think is overpriced.

Exterior Colour
Carrara White Metallic
Interior Colour
Standard interior in black with Alcantara®G
ParkAssist (front and rear)
Electrically folding exterior mirrors
Electric slide/tilt glass sunroof
Privacy glass (rear side windows and rear window)
Transmission / Chassis
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Power steering Plus
Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) including PASM sports suspension (20 mm lower)
Rear-axle steering
Wheels
20-inch 911 Turbo S wheels
Interior
Cruise control
Speed limit display
Heated multifunction steering wheel
Sports seats Plus (4-way, electric)
Seat heating
Floor mats
Passenger footwell storage net
Guards Red seat belts Ex

 

[GJN]

Nice to see some variety, here's my confirmed spec. Thanks for update on front lift, I didn't think it was a necessary, but good to hear first hand experience.

Cheers,
Gordon
U2 GT Silver Metallic
GR Alcantara® Package GTS in conjunction with GTS interior package Rhodium Silver
638 ParkAssist (front and rear) with reversing camera
425 Rear Wiper
XPL Privacy glass (rear side windows and rear window)
487 7-speed manual transmission
658 Power steering Plus
470 Rear-axle steering
449 20-inch 911 Turbo S wheels
088 GTS interior package
454 Cruise control
P13 Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P05 Sports seats Plus (4-way, electric)
342 Seat heating
583 Smoking package

 

[john synnuck]

Very small point. I notice some of us have and some haven't spec'd the rear wiper. I haven't as I prefer the look of the car without. For those of you who currently drive a 911 have you found it useful?

 

[GJN]

Hi John - I had one on my 991 C4s and never really felt it affected the look, though appreciate it's a personal preference. From a usefulness point of view, I felt it was essential as I live in Scotland and though I'm a fair weather driver, there is a high likelihood/probability of getting caught in the rain anytime you go out, and in bad weather I found it made a big difference to driving safety/visibility.

Cheers

 

[Lancerlot]

Very small point. I notice some of us have and some haven't spec'd the rear wiper. I haven't as I prefer the look of the car without. For those of you who currently drive a 911 have you found it useful?

Unless you're happy to get out and wipe down the rear screen prior to pulling out from a parking space on a wet winter's night, I would definitely go for the wiper! []
Regards,
Clive

 

[ralphmusic]

Clive,

I use RainX on my rear screen and the water just runs off.

Ralph

 

[Lancerlot]

Sure - goose fat does the same thing!
Regards,
Clive

 

[ralphmusic]

I've heard this keeps older people warm []

 

[Lancerlot]

Double the benefit and twice the value! []
Regards,
Clive

 

[john synnuck]

Thanks for the heads up guys on the rear wiper....looks like I may go back to the spec...

 

[unclewinks]

Had a rear wiper on our gen 1 turbo
very useful
something I miss on this one

 

[shorthouse]

For the 2GTS.
I have stuck to the white and black combination which I presently have on my GTS. I have not gone for the front lift system, or the GTS interior package, which I think is overpriced.

Exterior Colour
Carrara White Metallic
Interior Colour
Standard interior in black with Alcantara®G
ParkAssist (front and rear)
Electrically folding exterior mirrors
Electric slide/tilt glass sunroof
Privacy glass (rear side windows and rear window)
Transmission / Chassis
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Power steering Plus
Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) including PASM sports suspension (20 mm lower)
Rear-axle steering
Wheels
20-inch 911 Turbo S wheels
Interior
Cruise control
Speed limit display
Heated multifunction steering wheel
Sports seats Plus (4-way, electric)
Seat heating
Floor mats
Passenger footwell storage net
Guards Red seat belts Ex

Huw, just curious, does the 991 multifunction steering wheel retain the paddles that come with the PDK car with standard steering wheel?

 

[Cameo]

I have the standard -10mm SPASM on my 991.1 GTS and I find that it often catches at the bottom of slopes and sleeping policemen - even innocuous looking ones. I'm not sure if it's the front spoiler or the plastic flaps at the rear of the wheels arches.

I wanted the -20mm but decided against it on advice from OPC regarding grounding; given my experiences I'm glad I didn't. I would have probably gone for it if front axle lift was an option but it wasn't on the 991.1. I believe the standard SPASM on the GTS .2 coupe is -20mm, if you're sticking with that I would recommend going with front axle lift (especially if it's a daily driver).

I was also tempted by the rear wiper but I was put off that it didn't have 'wash' functionality and I disliked its appearance. I spec'ed the rear reversing camera to get around any parking manouvre problems. To be fair visibility around the car is pretty good with the door mirrors and the rear screen clears pretty quickly. I don't miss not having a rear wiper.

After all, if you don't need a rear wiper on a saloon car you definitely don't need one on a sports car![]

 

[john synnuck]

I have the standard -10mm SPASM on my 991.1 GTS and I find that it often catches at the bottom of slopes and sleeping policemen - even innocuous looking ones. I'm not sure if it's the front spoiler or the plastic flaps at the rear of the wheels arches.

I wanted the -20mm but decided against it on advice from OPC regarding grounding; given my experiences I'm glad I didn't. I would have probably gone for it if front axle lift was an option but it wasn't on the 991.1. I believe the standard SPASM on the GTS .2 coupe is -20mm, if you're sticking with that I would recommend going with front axle lift (especially if it's a daily driver).

I was also tempted by the rear wiper but I was put off that it didn't have 'wash' functionality and I disliked its appearance. I spec'ed the rear reversing camera to get around any parking manouvre problems. To be fair visibility around the car is pretty good with the door mirrors and the rear screen clears pretty quickly. I don't miss not having a rear wiper.

After all, if you don't need a rear wiper on a saloon car you definitely don't need one on a sports car![]

Thanks for this info..its interesting to hear someone's real experiences of various bits. A no cost option on the 991.2 GTS is PASM -10 mm as opposed to the standard PASM -20mm. I've currently got a 981 Spyder, which also has -20mm, and haven't experiences many problems with that. The suspension is very stiff and when going over speed humps, I go over two with a wheel on each hump and have never experienced problems. For that reason, and I think the car looks better, I've spec'd the -20mm suspension.

 

[john synnuck]

Sorry to bore everyone but as I've said in the last post I'm really interested in others real experiences with a 991. I am desperately trying to make sure I get the best spec for me and my car. On another forum, there are many who suggest they have experienced flexing as a result of having the glass slide and tilt roof. I suspect at 10/10 driving, in particular flat out on a track, that may be possible to feel if you are a very able driver but I think its unlikely to be felt even when driving the car 'spiritedly' on everyday roads
Has anyone, with the glass roof, experienced this?

 

[GJN]

Hi John, I had a 991 C4s for 3 years (just traded for the 4GTS I've ordered), and had the glass sunroof.
In answer to your question, I never noticed any flexing, and had it on many road trips where the driving was 'spirited' without issue. It does create a lot of light in the cabin and looks good, the reasons I didn't spec it personally on the current car are:
1. No matter how well made the car is, the sun roof invariable 'rattles and squeaks' a little, which came to annoy me as the car was solid in every other aspect; and
2. Personally I wanted the car to look as pure as possible (i.e. clean 911 shape, I also had the ducktail last time and have dropped this on this order). As much as I liked the look of the glass roof on my last car, I feel it's starting to become a bit dated and in time will age the car/mark it as the period when all manufacturers were adding glass roofs (e.g. F type etc). That however is a purely personal aesthetic opinion, and if you like it go for it - I did on my C4S, and as noted - unless you are a track hound I can't see you ever noticing any performance issues.

Cheers

 

[Lancerlot]

Sorry to bore everyone but as I've said in the last post I'm really interested in others real experiences with a 991. I am desperately trying to make sure I get the best spec for me and my car. On another forum, there are many who suggest they have experienced flexing as a result of having the glass slide and tilt roof. I suspect at 10/10 driving, in particular flat out on a track, that may be possible to feel if you are a very able driver but I think its unlikely to be felt even when driving the car 'spiritedly' on everyday roads
Has anyone, with the glass roof, experienced this?

Placing a big hole in a monocoque chassis greatly reduces torsional rigidity. As I understand it, Porsche needed to introduce additional reinforcement into the bodyshell in an effort to overcome this. Given the choice, I would tend towards not having a sunroof.
Regards,
Clive

 

[Gorsh]

Interesting comments on the glass sunroof, I had also seen the negative comment on PH and was wondering about it. An awful lot of 991's seem to have the glass roof, I suppose the benefits of looks and extra light (plus being able to open it) are judged to outweigh the downside of rigidity and creaking. It never occurred to me there would be any problem with creaking - that is a concern to me as I hate rattles and creaks.
Have to seriously consider what to do - I really like the idea of having the glass roof, shame to have to give it up.