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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/26 07:35:00 (permalink)
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Pretty much at the end of this mini adventure of an engine re-build. What a jagged journey it has been.
 
Thank you all who have been kind in tolerating my story and giving moral support!
I'll leave you all in Modified in Peace and Quiet.



Please don’t leave us in peace and quiet! I’ve enjoyed following the story of your engine build, and I enjoyed the report of your Prescott weekend. I’m looking forward to reading more reports of the ongoing battle with the TVR and Pilbeam. Now if your wife can be persuaded that she needs new shoes and you need new boots…….l🙂
 
Maybe one day we’ll see you and the Lola at Gurston, the hill is not as fierce as you think, after all there are only 3 corners!

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/26 09:26:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/04/26 09:30:47
Thanks for the kind words. I do a 'Race Report' on another motorsport focused Forum for years on this little car so I'll copy-n-paste on here. Won't be very exciting, but detailed....
That thread I started in 2008 and is still running with very nearly 800,000 hits. Gulp!
 
Mrs Hillclimber has approved new slicks for Shelsley Walsh, but BMTR may not have the right ones! Waiting for a phone call.
 
Spectated at Gurston several times, seen a few 'offs' too so Mrs HC not impressed. Long way to tow too, and prob a few more limp excuses.
We'll see.
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/26 10:29:45 (permalink)
Graham,
 
Although the major hard work is now done and hopefully you can reap the rewards this season, I’d like to echo Andrew’s sentiments and ask you to keep us updated on progress on the technical aspects in particular, although it will be good hear about your class battle as the season progresses. Maybe you can just redirect us to your other forum to avoid duplication?
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/28 10:00:54 (permalink)
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Andrew,
 
I’ve neither attended any hillclimbs nor watched them online and was surprised by the non-stop action and the number of cars taking part and the variety.
 
Jeff




A little off topic, but a good few years back some of us (from the the titanic 944 list) went and did a day at the Prescott hill climb school, It was an excellent day (even if the hill climbing isn't the ideal event for a 944 turbo ( gears are too long and the boost too late for tight uphill corners - thats my excuse ;) ).Through the day a lot was learnt and great respect developed for those who compete - you have to be very focused and consistent to be fast! 
Highly recommended day out!
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edited to add a link https://www.prescotthillclimb.co.uk/driving-school
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/28 13:19:50 (permalink)
Thanks for that input Tony. A narrow, winding and undulating track with a significant amount of off-track “furniture” frighteningly close must concentrate the mind! 😲 A lot different from the race tracks I’ve driven where there are plenty of run-off areas for the over-confident driver (not me … thankfully!).
 
Graham’s thread and Andrew’s input have piqued an interest for me, and I’m hoping to get along to a meeting some time this year; Prescott maybe, which (I think?) is the closest hillclimb track to me in North Beds.
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/04/28 15:54:43 (permalink)
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Thanks for that input Tony. A narrow, winding and undulating track with a significant amount of off-track “furniture” frighteningly close must concentrate the mind! 😲 A lot different from the race tracks I’ve driven where there are plenty of run-off areas for the over-confident driver (not me … thankfully!).
 
Graham’s thread and Andrew’s input have piqued an interest for me, and I’m hoping to get along to a meeting some time this year; Prescott maybe, which (I think?) is the closest hillclimb track to me in North Beds.
 
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I have done a fair few tracks too, the speeds (mine especially :) ) were a lot lower at Prescott, the only off on our day was 'over the edge' on the fast right at the top by an experienced hill climber in a Lotus/Caterham 7 style car, damage was fairly minor, fortunately.

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/05/16 07:17:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/05/16 07:50:21
Hello all, just a simple up-date to the way this engine is working out.
 
The Championship I do, the Midland, has 9 events/ year, 7 counting at the end of the year.
Each event has 2 timed points scoring runs, and your best scores add up and you get a class and overall position. The trophy for winning my Class is rather nice and has my name on it 4 times whilst running this little club racer over the last decade or so.
 
I want to add my name for the 5th time this year!
 
We completed the 3rd round this weekend just past, Prescott, Shelsley and Loton Park.
The points you get depends on the numbers in the class that race, max points for a class with 6 or more drivers in it etc. One in the class, 1 point.
 
After Prescott a fresh set of slicks went on (£1320!) and I got used to this engine.
 
I won't bore you with 'this happened, that happened' here but it sure is going well.
 
The engine is fabulous, everything I set out to achieve has been realised, it's characteristics are idea for the hills where torque and flexibility is needed and a good dose of power ideal.
I have super strong competition in the form of a radical TVR with about 400 bhp, light, and a driver with considerable circuit racing experience, so 2022 will be no breeze.
 
However, the car is magic and working well, even the aged pilot is almost operational and the 'Team' is leading the class by 14 points, 
 
The engine is very revvy, sounds ballistic from the driver's seat and is a joy to drive and own.
All those painful days are quickly fading into time as a result.
 
Thought this little clip of the car at Loton might amuse, 3rd practice run on the Saturday.
My best race time tumbled to 55.36 secs.
https://youtu.be/Z6xxzirTfyg?t=7383
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/05/16 09:56:16 (permalink)
That’s great to hear Graham, especially after all your hard work … and a few anxious moments too! 
 
I really must make the effort to get along to a hillclimb event this year, and it would be great to see the car in action. Prescott’s the closest circuit to me, and I assume that you’re going to be there in July rather than for the Porsche at Prescott event in June?
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/05/16 10:49:02 (permalink)
Trying to get into Prescott for both days but there is a small complication about the clubby on the Saturday.
will let you know vis this thread!

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/05/30 16:38:51 (permalink)
Away from the intricacies of Club Motorsport...We are entered for the clubbie on the Saturday, and the Midland Champ Sunday.
 
while chatting to the gaggle of Porsche racers at Prescott, I was asked what rockers I had in the engine to reach 8,000 reliably and repeatedly.
 
Standard I sheepishly answered which was met with raised eyebrows.
This very seasoned classic Porsche race know his onions.
 
any experiences to share?

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/07/25 12:13:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/07/25 12:23:14
Been a while, but thought this video clip may be of interest.
The engine is ballistic, just fab, and the car a real treat to have and to hillclimb.
 
The car appears about 30 secs into this clip;
 
https://youtu.be/h--LFktL_Ag?t=11753

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/07/25 12:53:21 (permalink)
Great to hear that all your hard work has come good Graham. I’ve not had a chance to view the video in total … where did you come in your class?
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/07/25 14:13:56 (permalink)
The class for yesterday was:
EVOMini, a space framed 'Mini' with full 4x4 EVO3 running gear, about 600 bhp on methanol. An old adversary for a decade or more.
A hot TVR 5 litres, 450 bhp race chassis built/driven by a pro TVR race car shop.
A 7 litre Pilbeam sports racer, 600+ bhp, and a 7 litre Holden Commodore (!)
 
Oh, and me, 300 ish bhp in 560Kg.
Of all the class runners, nearly all had 2 x the bhp etc, but none as light as the LOLA though the Mini is close!
 
The video clip shows what a great chassis it has and it was a joy to drive. Never ever been this quick in my 31 years of hillclimbing.
 
So, 2 race rounds, 2nd in class both times behind the EVOMini but crucially ahead of the TVR which was third on both runs.
 
However, the EVO is not in my Championship, the rest are, so I have nett'd a further 4 points to my tally, keeping me firmly in the lead in the Championship class I'm in, Over 2 litres, Sports Libre.
 
3 more events left, so 6 race runs, thus the result could be very different at the end!

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/07/25 15:33:31 (permalink)
Your car looks (and sounds) great in the video. Thanks for posting and well done!

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/18 18:16:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby AndrewCS 2022/10/18 22:51:41
Very happy to say it is confirmed we won the Class in the midland hillclimb Championship and by a very good margin.
 
This is the 5th time winning it, so great.
 
This engine has made a huge difference.
 
I'm sure the struggle will be far harder for 2023, but a great 2022 season.
 

 


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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/18 18:54:28 (permalink)
Well done after all the frustrations over Winter and early New Year.
 
Hillclimb paddocks are always friendly places, nice picture..

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/18 22:58:20 (permalink)
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Well done after all the frustrations over Winter and early New Year.

 
+ 1 ... 
 
 
Hillclimb paddocks are always friendly places

 
Not always ... I once was the subject of a successful protest  as my rear bench seat (Mk1 Golf GTI) was folded down, moving me up a class !!! 

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/19 08:11:26 (permalink)
Well done Graham🏆
 
 

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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/19 08:19:02 (permalink)
That’s a great result Graham after all your hard work and frustrations. Well done! 👍
 
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Re: 8000 rpm 3.2 engine? 2022/10/19 08:21:53 (permalink)
Thank you all.
I reset my PB's at Prescott 5 times and Loton 3 times but a better pb at Shelsley illuded me!
Odd as it is a 'power hill' but not this time!
That will be a target for 2033.
 
Having the big TVR (5 litres) chasing me all the way was a big motivator and a bit of luck came to play too, but to win you have to prepare well and just try!
 
Not sure how many more years i have with the car as age creeps in, but I hope 2 or 3 more.
 


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