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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 15:09:33 (permalink)
If a Cayman-6 model is indeed launched, my opinion would be towards resurrecting the Cayman R model. Make the car lighter, deselect all the comfort stuff, optional carbon bucket seats, X81 suspension, some aero add-ons, LSD diff, and a manual and PDK option. Such a car would probably have a wider appeal in today's market than the previous CR enjoyed, which was pretty much a niche car at the time. 
 
Such a move could would leave the current 718 2.5t F4 models as they are with all the comfort options available for owners who are not track day minded.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 16:27:51 (permalink)
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If a Cayman-6 model is indeed launched, my opinion would be towards resurrecting the Cayman R model. Make the car lighter, deselect all the comfort stuff, optional carbon bucket seats, X81 suspension, some aero add-ons, LSD diff, and a manual and PDK option. Such a car would probably have a wider appeal in today's market than the previous CR enjoyed, which was pretty much a niche car at the time.     

 
I think that's the 718T model, Brian, albeit with the lowest powered engine in the range.  A proper road-focused 718R with the F6 would be a great car though, I agree.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 17:01:52 (permalink)
Thanks David.
 
Porsche should keep the 2.0 F4 for the very basic Cayster models. I've always thought the current 718 2.0 T to be a big mistake. The 2.0 F4 hasn't the technical sophistication nor the turbo technology of the 2.5 F4.
 
A Cayman-6 R along the lines I have suggested would sell very well. It would even tempt current 718 GTS owners like myself to give it a go.
 
Just one thing though, if Porsche do the Cayman-6 please don't label it a 718. It's a type 982.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 17:22:37 (permalink)
Chaps,
 
An F-6 982R certainly would make an interesting proposition but somehow I can't see it happening, mainly because the the original track-focused CR's place has been taken by the more focused GT4.
 
We've had the 982-6 Cayman and Boxster "twins" running around for a while now and I can see how these cars could fit into the mid-engine car range with identical specs, including PDK, but I can't envisage a place for what would have to be an additional Cayman 982R, especially since it would be relatively easy to option a 982-6 with the items Brian has suggested.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 19:40:48 (permalink)
We can only live in hope Jeff......
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/27 21:32:55 (permalink)
I can't quite see how the NASP 6 works when P are trying to green up their range ...
 
NASP 6 for the relatively few GT cars makes sense but if the latest engine was the answer, why Turbo at-all ?

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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/28 09:25:25 (permalink)
I think generally we're all in agreement with you Chris but the fact is that there are definitely non-turbo 6-cylinder Caymans and Boxsters running around the 'Ring, and the word is that they'll be arriving sooner rather than later.
 
Having commited strongly to turbo engines (supposedly in the interests of fuel economy and emissions) for the current-generation cars it does seem very odd that Porsche have chosen to take this path, but having commited to natural aspiration for the GT4 and developing what is essentially a new engine at significant expense, part of the business case must have been to use the engine in other models. I don't think that the 4-pot engine has gone down particularly well in the very important (for Porsche) US market, so that could have been a critical factor in the decision-making process.
 
All speculation of course, and we all wait to see how things pan out in the coming months.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/28 18:52:08 (permalink)
All points noted and valid Jeff.
 
Regarding the respective fuel economy of the 2.5 F4t, it uses more fuel on like-for-like driving than an nat asp F6. I'm not talking about 7th gear motorway miles here, I'm referring to rural road driving in manual shift and using the accessible big torque for maximum progress on flowing roads. Economical it is not.
 
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Re: Cayman and Boxster 718-6? 2019/07/28 19:16:37 (permalink)
Well, that's knocked on the head one of Porsche's reasons for going turbo then Brian, but I suppose you'd need to test the 981 under WLTP conditions in order to obtain a truly valid comparison between the 981 and 718? And I suspect that the 718 emissions will be lower, even without the GPF, which is probably more important in the long-run.
 
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