Who's going to Chateau Impney

[pauljmcnulty]

I'll be pulling cars from the entry lines to make up the displays. If that's a non-member car on the Sunday then so what? It's a car Club, and the cars are all welcome. []

I'm disappointed at the turnout personally. With around 600 cars in the Club it's a shame we couldn't get 30 committed to each day. I think that if we'd called it "Register parking" rather than "display", then it would have been better.

I certainly think money is an important factor. This weekend will be costing me at least £600 including lost income, and I could have had a holiday for that! I have made this my only major event, cutting out Silverstone and not planning to go to Calke Abbey, as I just can't justify the cost. [&o]

 

[PSH]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I'll be pulling cars from the entry lines to make up the displays. If that's a non-member car on the Sunday then so what? It's a car Club, and the cars are all welcome. []

hmm.. well good luck with that Paul, I wouldn't broadcast it though, PCGB powers to be used to frown on such antics, I remember when Martin was in your roll as 944 reg sec, a great guy who did an awful lot for the 944 clan. He fell foul of club rules for doing such things and found himself no longer welcome by PCGB, to such an extent that when he wished to visit me in the PCGB camp at Le Mans some years back he was escorted off the field. Personally I have no time for such people, but live in hope that perhaps things may be a little better today.

Pete

 

[GlennS]

I can no longer make this for personal reasons. Email sent to Paul explaining.

 

[andy watson]

ORIGINAL: PSH

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I'll be pulling cars from the entry lines to make up the displays. If that's a non-member car on the Sunday then so what? It's a car Club, and the cars are all welcome. []

hmm.. well good luck with that Paul, I wouldn't broadcast it though, PCGB powers to be used to frown on such antics, I remember when Martin was in your roll as 944 reg sec, a great guy who did an awful lot for the 944 clan. He fell foul of club rules for doing such things and found himself no longer welcome by PCGB, to such an extent that when he wished to visit me in the PCGB camp at Le Mans some years back he was escorted off the field. Personally I have no time for such people, but live in hope that perhaps things may be a little better today.

Pete

Well we could always use it as a sales pitch and come join our club day!
Personally can't see the problem.....(but maybe that's cause I only have a 44) had the club seen fit to celebrate the 30th maybe, just maybe there would have been more of a show?

 

[pauljmcnulty]

PCGB powers to be used to frown on such antics, I remember when Martin was in your roll as 944 reg sec, a great guy who did an awful lot for the 944 clan. He fell foul of club rules for doing such things and found himself no longer welcome by PCGB

Well, and I hope the board aren't reading this [][], but with all the comings and goings of the directors over the last few years, I think the the register secretaries have more experience about their own model, and the owners, than anyone, and should be pretty much allowed to run the register as they see best. The current board are a completely different kettle of fish, which is why so much seems to have moved forward so fast. A lot of regions and registers appeared to become quite isolated from the main Club, doing their own things. That's wrong IMO, and hopefully the Club would support regions and registers in whatever they do for their invividual members.

Andy, with all the changes it's not a surprise that little was being planned. People have had to organise this event with half of it already in place, and all the info in the heads of people who've moved on. The venue has very limited display parking, so we were very lucky to get the area we have. It's certainly a shop-window for the Register, and the Club as a whole. []

 

[supersport]

I don't think and would hope that noone sees the event as a 911 event and can't see why anyone would ever think it was.

I do think that the event is going to be well attended and successful but at the end of the day it is in peak holiday season, along way for some to travel and hence expensive. I also think that you have to remember that whilst the 944 register is active and popular it is amongst relatively few people and although there was a call for a 30th display I suspect that there were less than 30 calling for it, and some of those had no intention of being in it. It is sadly the case that there are often some very vocal people who actually never contribute other than by being loud.

I think it is also worth remembering that to be part of the display means that your car is tied down all day and often people will come and go to these events and therefore this is quite a large commitment. I also believe that the 2 day format dilutes the attendance, after all it isn't like a Silverstone event where there is something different to see each day, even as a Porsche fanatic I wouldn't come on both days.

I would imagine that this year's weather has had a large part to play in people not committing, how many of us have had events washed out, cancelled or poorly turned out due to rain?

I think Paul's approach of grabbing from the entry lines is probably the best way to go, assuming poeple will commit, we have done this in the past and some don't want to stay all day, but it does work. It could well be the case that many simple don't know about it. You have to remember that the vast majority of poeple don't actually read what is in front of them and so wouldn't know about it.

Sadly we aren't going as it is the start of our holiday. In any case there is no way we would want to do 2 days and therefore there and back in one day is probably 5 - 6 hours in the car and with an 8 year old in the back just not going to happen. Plus of course we have been to Chatsworth, good but cold and damp, our own show 2 weeks ago and Beamish for R3 in September. As much as I love the cars you can only walk around so many fields looking at them. Being in the grounds of a Hotel also means that there is not going to be enough to keep the 8 year old happy and I can only take so much ear ache.

 

[964RS]

I'm going. Come and chat with us on the Modified Register stand. []

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I still need a copuple of people to cover the display for an hour or so each day. Volunteers please!

I'm on O7971 83278O on the day if anyone needs me. []

 

[944 man]

ORIGINAL: PSH

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I'll be pulling cars from the entry lines to make up the displays. If that's a non-member car on the Sunday then so what? It's a car Club, and the cars are all welcome. []

hmm.. well good luck with that Paul, I wouldn't broadcast it though, PCGB powers to be used to frown on such antics, I remember when Martin was in your roll as 944 reg sec, a great guy who did an awful lot for the 944 clan. He fell foul of club rules for doing such things and found himself no longer welcome by PCGB, to such an extent that when he wished to visit me in the PCGB camp at Le Mans some years back he was escorted off the field. Personally I have no time for such people, but live in hope that perhaps things may be a little better today.

Pete

That sums up the club in my experience Pete. It wasnt too bad when the fat jovial Welshman was the chairman, but when he left and the skinny Yorkshireman took over the whole atmosphere changed.

A long time ago, but I have a long memory.

 

[loc944]

Well,I was there today along with around 20 944's, hopefully more tomorrow . See you there.

Alan.

 

[Mike_Pollock]

Hi Alan
Good to see you again and meet your wife, pics look ok too!
Lovely to see so many 944s together in one place , just sorry cant be there tomorrow too.
Have a good day and safe trip home
Cheers

 

[pauljmcnulty]

A huge than you to all who came along this weekend. There was nothing we could do about the odd cars parked in our area, it's a working hotel and conference centre, but hopefully the selfish oiks didn't spoil the line-up.

Great weather, superb cars, old friends and new. Why would you not want to go to an event like this? Don't forget Calke Abbey in September; I can't be there but it's the last big Register event before winter sets in. []

 

[loc944]

I had a really enjoyable weekend, lots of cars, good to meet people on here. Sorry if I didn't get to meet everyone.
Big thanks to Paul and all the team for their efforts.

Alan.

 

[944 man]

I heard that the 924-944-968 area was the hotel car park? They havent learnt, have they? It was this sort of short-sighted arrogance which caused the 924-944 enthusiasts club to form (now TIPEC).

If the boards attitude was better, then the majority of those TIPEC members would be PCGB members. Of course, we wouldnt see the benefit of the subs.....

I realise that Im a guest on this forum, but remember that I was a member for years which certainly qualifies me to share my opinion.


Simon

 

[andy watson]

Thanks for all your efforts Paul,
Good to meet everyone today some nice 44's and a good selection of models as well, glad the cabby boys could keep the hoods down!

Good company and enjoyed the meal Saturday night as well, trip home was a good un so all in all a thoroughly good weekend.

Catch up soon and hopefully before Rutland!!

 

[pauljmcnulty]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

I heard that the 924-944-968 area was the hotel car park? They havent learnt, have they? It was this sort of short-sighted arrogance which caused the 924-944 enthusiasts club to form (now TIPEC).

If the boards attitude was better, then the majority of those TIPEC members would be PCGB members. Of course, we wouldnt see the benefit of the subs.....

I realise that Im a guest on this forum, but remember that I was a member for years which certainly qualifies me to share my opinion.


Simon

Hi Simon,

You're wrong in so many way here it's hard to know where to start.....[]

It's a hotel. So, any fool can see that the tarmac bits around the venue tend to be parking areas. It's hardly surprising that people staying overnight parked in the car parks, and some went off for the day leaving their cars in the wrong place. Thoughtless, and in some cases, where they were asked to move and refused, selfish, but let's face it it's a weekend away and the Porsche owner who brought his family in the family car is entitled to be there. The only way to clear the car parks was overnight "security" making people walk miles to unload their suitcases, or a tow-truck on the day. I like to think that the 944 owners are relaxed enough to enjoy a day out ven if there's a Passat in the middle of the display. [&:]

Regarding Tipec, If you speak to the senior people there I think you'll find they would rather not have 15000 PCGB members join them. They would have to expand rapidly, bring in full-time staff and premises with massive overheads, and they'd then have exactly the same problems we have as a huge business.

I know there are always small groups of 944 owners trying to set up independant "free" clubs based around forums. That's why I spend so much time fighting for this, the largest 944 forum in the UK, to be open to all. I don't want us to fragment, we need to be a large group of owners in order to keep parts supply, manufacturer support etc. going. If people want to dilute the few committed owners like you and me, we will be in real trouble in the future.

Most worrying is you accusation that we were somehow shoved out in to an area away from the main display? In fact, we were going to be in the general car park, but it was the comments on this forum that made the organisers look for an area we could have for ourselves. You weren't there, but I am happy to inform you that there were very limited options for a dedicated area, and we had the best one. We also had the 924, 928 and 968 cars with us. Personally, I'd prefer one big Porsche car park, but the people who pay their membership asked for a seperate display and they got a very good one.

Again, if you'd been there, you'd have seen how many of the directors were signing the 944 anniversary bonnet, as nearly all of them are either current or previous owners of 944s. When the chairman is dissapointed that his car wasn't ready for our display you might understand how the Club actually respect the front-engined cars as much as the cash-cow modern cars. []

 

[loc944]

I'm sorry Simon but if you don't attend/support Events don't slag them off, it is comments like that that put potential new attendees off coming. I understand you were a member years ago, but we can only judge the Club as we see it now.
I was there all weekend and had a great time and travelled far to be there.

Alan.

 

[944 man]

My issue is with the club, not the event.

 

[andy watson]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

My issue is with the club, not the event.

But this thread is about the event!!

Simon, it is well known of your issues and dislike of the club ( and I am sure we all have a few) but is no good keep harping on perhaps
It would be good to back the new regime if only by not being o negative.

I was not very happy about rogue cars in our area, but it was unavoidable, yet we had a good day and that is all that matters!

And after all a VW Passat could now be seen as a relative

 

[rcsalmons]

I came along yesterday, really enjoyed it! Loved the red 944T with the RUF wheels.

Unbelievably had a bargain from Porscheshop as well!!

Rich