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Turbo or S2

Yes you could say this has been discussed time & time again, so I will keep this short & sweet & not repeat what everyone else has said but depending on your budget buy the best you can afford...

A late turbo is the way to go, Top of the range don't settle for second best !!! :)
 
I've owned a 220turbo and driven several S2's and turbos but every turbo always put a grin on my face, the S2 had flexibility but being used to a turbo I always felt the S2 was missing something.
 
I ran a tweaked 250 turbo for several years, in addition to a couple of 924S's and now an S2 track car

They are all great cars - your decision might come down to some other factors apart from the engine's power delivery.

If you like tinkering and buying shiny upgrades, then get a turbo - the possibilities are endless...

If a/c is on the list, try looking for an S2 with a/c....you might have to wait a while - even longer if you want working a/c. Whereas a/c is standard on turbos, so the chance of finding one working is much better.

Turbo interiors are usually nicer - many with leather sports seats. S2's are a bit of a mixed bunch, lots of later cars with grey & blue interiors which I didn't like. Black or Black/Linen are my personal favourites, leaving aside the wonderful Silver Rose pink check for a minute [:D] The 10 speaker premium sound pack was also a nice upgrade, not on many S2's.

I never really found traction in the turbo was an issue - I'm sure the LSD helped, but you just have to respect it and not boot it in a low gear halfway round a bend. get the front wheels straight and everything's fine.

I did enjoy the mid-range torque of the turbo - lots of fun when you put your foot down, but both cars share the same basic handling / steering characteristics. Heavy wheels will affect both S2 or Turbo. The only thing that was a pain was the lack of low down power in first gear - pulling out onto a roundabout from a standstill could catch you out sometimes while you wait for the turbo to spool up.

Of course the best option would be a 300hp S2 [:D]
 
Well, I must be a bit odd because I looked at things from a totally different point of view.

Having restored several classics over the last 20 years to concours standard I know all too well how a cars body, paint, mechanicals and trim can swallow cash very easily. Therefore when I bought recently my criteria was to buy the best car I could irrespective of Turbo or S2, condition and maintenance history being more important.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter how much power you have cos the speed camera vans limit the fun factor, but so do rotten sills and snapped timing belts.

Paul
 

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY

Well, I must be a bit odd because I looked at things from a totally different point of view.

Having restored several classics over the last 20 years to concours standard I know all too well how a cars body, paint, mechanicals and trim can swallow cash very easily. Therefore when I bought recently my criteria was to buy the best car I could irrespective of Turbo or S2, condition and maintenance history being more important.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter how much power you have cos the speed camera vans limit the fun factor, but so do rotten sills and snapped timing belts.

Paul

Agree with you Paul [:)]

Glad I had first dibs on the Turbo [;)]
 
Just to add my small note. As already mentioned, if you want a drivers car, the linear power and balance of a N/A will be your best option. If you are fascinated by technology and the ability to bolt on more power owning a Turbo is both a fascinating and frustrating journey in equal measure. However, as already noted, with a 20 year old car there is more happiness to be gained by not chasing rust than having a fire breathing monster which is falling apart around you. Get the best you can (no matter what version) and you will be as happy as a happy person.
 

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY
Therefore when I bought recently my criteria was to buy the best car I could irrespective of Turbo or S2, condition and maintenance history being more important.
This...

ORIGINAL: JOHN SIMS
Get the best you can (no matter what version) and you will be as happy as a happy person.
And this...

With maximum thisness.
 

ORIGINAL: steve944

Hi Guys
I know this question has probably been done to death on here but here goes....Turbo or S2 ??

I have just sold my 944 2.5 lux and liked it so that I would like another with more power..lots more power!!
(I think)


cheers

Steve.


I have to agree with Lowtimer in that you have answered your own question, however one thing we don't know is what's your budget?
 
I 100% agree that what ever I buy will be the best I can afford, preferably with a very good clean history, excellent body work, even some sensible mods, lots of recipts and what would be a bonus is a car that has been owned and cared for over a few years by the same owner. not asking much eh!
As far as my budget is concerned I'm not sure...6,7,8k... ? how much would get me a late turbo with most of the above ??

cheers

steve
 
ORIGINAL: MarkK

Nice one at Northways on pistonheads!???
Did see that one emailed them and never got a reply.... theres not a lot of info in the add either which is strange and it also looks as if it has light coloured interior that would be a nightmare to keep clean ..

Cheers.
 
Get it refurbed for 300 quid will look like new,then just condition it regularly,I have Linen and it looks spanking its also quite a cheery place to be.
 
If its had alot of money spent on it,Clutch,Belts,recent brakes,maybe some suspension it could be nice,I would call them maybe they are not email people?
 
ORIGINAL: MarkK

If its had alot of money spent on it,Clutch,Belts,recent brakes,maybe some suspension it could be nice,I would call them maybe they are not email people?

yeh might do that tomorrow. Ideally I would rather get the festive season over with first....tooo... many distractions!
will still be looking though.

cheers.
 
I love my 220T for its mid range overtaking ability. Its really in its element on A and B roads surging past slow moving traffic before nipping back to repeat the manoeuvre again later. Great.

But in towns its no fun. Pulling away from a junction quickly, requires clutch abuse and 3000rpm. The result is usually excessive. The S2 is going to be lots more progressive.

In heavy traffic you can't keep it on boost unless you drive around in 1st or 2nd gears which is fatiguing, and is therefore something I don't tend to do.

Have a good think about where you'll use the car. Since power delivery is the biggest discriminator between the S2 and turbo I believe this should be a major factor in your decision.
 
ORIGINAL: Paul 290T

I love my 220T for its mid range overtaking ability. Its really in its element on A and B roads surging past slow moving traffic before nipping back to repeat the manoeuvre again later. Great.

But in towns its no fun. Pulling away from a junction quickly, requires clutch abuse and 3000rpm. The result is usually excessive. The S2 is going to be lots more progressive.

In heavy traffic you can't keep it on boost unless you drive around in 1st or 2nd gears which is fatiguing, and is therefore something I don't tend to do.

Have a good think about where you'll use the car. Since power delivery is the biggest discriminator between the S2 and turbo I believe this should be a major factor in your decision.
Hi Paul
Thankfully I live about 10 miles from the nearest set of traffic lights and other than the odd occasion would I venture into town with any of my past or future treasured cars.
I know exactly where you are coming from and have taken that into consideration, maybe once I have driven a turbo it may sway me towards the S2 who knows but I think at the moment the thought of the extra ooomph is wining !! cheers
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

If you just want to get out and drive a near-perfect package, and never mess with it, an S2.

Ha! Funniest thing I've read on this site all year ... I seem to always be tinkering with my S2. Admittedly I am very intolerant of even the most minor fault, but there is always something that will need tinkering with on a 944. Adjusting the boot catches so it closes properly, poking the drain holes in the boot spoiler clear, lubricating the headlight mechanism so they pop up and down as they should, re-sealing the rear lights, changing the odd broken bit of interior trim, dealing with plate lift, taking the underbody trims off to get the salt/grot out, washing it, hoovering it, polishing it, servicing it ... the list goes on, irrespective of whether it is a turbo or an S2.


Oli.
 
When buying a 944 you need to consider a few things

1 Colour no !
2 Turbo Or N/A no !
3 Wheels no !
4 Interior material no !
5 Bridge Spoiler or rubber spoiler no!
6 Condition of the shell Yes!

turbo engine £1000
leather interior £1000
S2 engine £1000
wheels £500
tailgate £200

body repairs to a rusty shell that needs sills, wings, bits of floor ,rear panel and paint job £5000 min

Oh wait a min that's more than all the upgrades........................

Buy the best shell you can from an oval dash car and you can build a hot turbo or a better S2 for less than you'll spend fixing the body on a rusty car.And remember you can't always see the really expensive bits to fix.
 
hi Colin,
After 30 years of buying/restoing/selling cars good and bad (as a hobby only) I am well aware of buying the best shell possible, I always take that as an obvious/a given...
But I always think it is important to get what you want as there is no point in getting white car when what you want is black... What I'm tring to say is if you have seen a car with "the sound shell" wouldn't be nice if it had as many of your desirables as possible ?? which would also save ££'s
Could you tell me apart from the sills and bottom of front wings where the other obvious (if any) areas that should be looked out for

Cheers

Stevie.
 

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