Turbo or S2
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Then you've answered your question.
More power = S2.
But lots more power = Turbo.
Nevertheless, even as a tuned Turbo owner, I firmly believe that there is more to life than More Power, and a good S2 is a thing of joy, and even after 25 years can still run with a lot of current-day hot hatches. It's an easier car than a Turbo to drive quickly, especially on roads you don't know very well.
More power = S2.
But lots more power = Turbo.
Nevertheless, even as a tuned Turbo owner, I firmly believe that there is more to life than More Power, and a good S2 is a thing of joy, and even after 25 years can still run with a lot of current-day hot hatches. It's an easier car than a Turbo to drive quickly, especially on roads you don't know very well.
Balls out "Oh my giddy aunt" power......Turbo
Grunt throughout the rev range S2, but you cannot really hike the 220 out of the box power, a 220 Turbo has loads of mid range grunt and can be tuned to spit a lot more out, both models are now deservedly rising in price so get in there !!
Grunt throughout the rev range S2, but you cannot really hike the 220 out of the box power, a 220 Turbo has loads of mid range grunt and can be tuned to spit a lot more out, both models are now deservedly rising in price so get in there !!
Totally agree with Frenchy.
For out and out power a Turbo on boost is fun fun fun.
But a S2 is a excellent all round torquey animal in its own right.
Depending what you want to use the car for either weekend 2nd car or daily driver, I'd go with an S2 as a daily driver and Turbo as a bit of a weekend fun car.
This is obviously just my opinion, I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to shoot me down.
For out and out power a Turbo on boost is fun fun fun.
But a S2 is a excellent all round torquey animal in its own right.
Depending what you want to use the car for either weekend 2nd car or daily driver, I'd go with an S2 as a daily driver and Turbo as a bit of a weekend fun car.
This is obviously just my opinion, I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to shoot me down.
Thanks for the reply guys.
I do appreciate both cars character, the smoth progressive delivery of the S2 to the lag/surge of the turbo but I do feel that the S2 by todays standards is slightly under powered ( hope I'm not offending anyone!)
and to spend lots of money tuning an S2 or even dare I say it buying a 968!! I would still not get near the potential of the Turbo.
I know it may sound as if all I want is power but its not, if that was the case I would go Impreza or Evo which are also very good cars but my aim is to turn a vary good and very under rated porsche into an even better one!!
cheers
Stevie
I do appreciate both cars character, the smoth progressive delivery of the S2 to the lag/surge of the turbo but I do feel that the S2 by todays standards is slightly under powered ( hope I'm not offending anyone!)
and to spend lots of money tuning an S2 or even dare I say it buying a 968!! I would still not get near the potential of the Turbo.
I know it may sound as if all I want is power but its not, if that was the case I would go Impreza or Evo which are also very good cars but my aim is to turn a vary good and very under rated porsche into an even better one!!
cheers
Stevie
So a Turbo it is ! don't come on here saying Evo / Subaru, think about it you are talking 20 odd year old German classics which will outgun most of the Japanese cars you have mentioned pure class.................which is not really what the Jap things can boast, capable yes, but class ?
Retro, Classic is massive right now and the right Porsche will hold if not make money.................................No Brainer !
Not having a pop just trying to bring you to your senses.
Retro, Classic is massive right now and the right Porsche will hold if not make money.................................No Brainer !
Not having a pop just trying to bring you to your senses.
Ooooooo! sound a tad miffed there mate.. calm down
My senses are well intact thank you and after owning two 911's a 924 and a 944 I am well aware of cars with classic value !
All I am asking is the opinion of well versed people about a car/s I am thinking of buying and was only giving a comparison with cars that people power up to the hilt and, if I was soley after power these would be cars to be considered
Take the blinkers off have a beer and chill man!!
My senses are well intact thank you and after owning two 911's a 924 and a 944 I am well aware of cars with classic value !
All I am asking is the opinion of well versed people about a car/s I am thinking of buying and was only giving a comparison with cars that people power up to the hilt and, if I was soley after power these would be cars to be considered
Take the blinkers off have a beer and chill man!!
944 man
Active member
Its a mistake to underestimate Imprezas and Lancer Evos too. I expect that someone will mention Dave Malings and his selling an Impreza because a 944 was so much faster around the Nordschleife, but: i] even a UK model Turbo 2000 will show a clean pair of heels to a 951 down most back roads ii] pound for pound a modified Impreza is going to be faster than a 951 and finally iii] Dave is a tool - listening to him and Gary Kinghorn youd think that they invented the Nurburgring.
MarkK
Well-known member
I love turbos had 3 still got 2,but there is a definite charm to an S2,I wouldn't be distracted by the low horsepower figure because they are big Stuttgart horses,Paul S let me drive his to Rutland in 2010 and I was smitten with its silky smooth grunt,very different motors in the same shell and good for different reasons.I would have a go in both and decide for yourself and ignore what everyone else says.
Let us know when you take the plunge what you picked!
Let us know when you take the plunge what you picked!
Cheers Mark
I have had a S2 for a day a few years ago and really enjoyed it thats what brought me to buying the 2.5 lux, I bought it as a cheap runabout with a years mot and tax and was smitten... not quite the same as the S2 I know but apart from the engine size and output everything else was spot on from the driving position to handling, build quality etc. etc.
So in a nut shell I would like more of the same.. and as you say I should and will have a go in a turbo before I make a decision.
I don't plan to have it as a dailly runner more for weekend fun and as hobby hopefully improving it. so it looks like it is pointing towards the turbo but who knows !!
So if anyone who has an late turbo or S2 in black, grey, silver, white,or red (in that order) with dark interior in top condition and thinking of selling in the new year please let me know I may be interested.
cheers.
Stevie.
I have had a S2 for a day a few years ago and really enjoyed it thats what brought me to buying the 2.5 lux, I bought it as a cheap runabout with a years mot and tax and was smitten... not quite the same as the S2 I know but apart from the engine size and output everything else was spot on from the driving position to handling, build quality etc. etc.
So in a nut shell I would like more of the same.. and as you say I should and will have a go in a turbo before I make a decision.
I don't plan to have it as a dailly runner more for weekend fun and as hobby hopefully improving it. so it looks like it is pointing towards the turbo but who knows !!
So if anyone who has an late turbo or S2 in black, grey, silver, white,or red (in that order) with dark interior in top condition and thinking of selling in the new year please let me know I may be interested.
cheers.
Stevie.
david924s
New member
Before I bought my first Porsche a long time back 924S I was ready to buy my friends WRX modified with all STI parts and running over 260bhp on a rolling road, beautiful car really fast and well modified, it was only when I drove it the disappointment set in. It was fast, handled and stopped like nothing else I had driven but boring inside no character, so I decided on another Japenese car the Nissan 200SX went to see a couple and the guy seling them had a red 924S parked in the back, no contest I had not even considered a Porsche up to that point took both for a drive and both me and my Wife fell in love with the Porsche so bought it and had it for 5 years, replaced it with the 944S2 which is a lovely car much smoother than the 924S and obviously a little quicker but really wish i had kept the 924S a good mate has it now and I am always tempted to buy it back.
So Turbo or S2 or whatever will depend on what you want from a car, if you only want HP then buy a Skyline if you want a different experience then buy a Porsche.
So Turbo or S2 or whatever will depend on what you want from a car, if you only want HP then buy a Skyline if you want a different experience then buy a Porsche.
MartinRS2K
Active member
I've recently bought a late 944 Turbo (250 bhp) as a weekend car and can say that it brings a massive smile to my face every ime I get in it. [
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It's docile and feels a bit flat under 3000 revs but if you wind it up and drive it then it becomes a different beast and feels capable, safe but very fast.
I've had Audi RS4's as daily drivers and the Porsche is a much nicer car to drive quickly
]It's docile and feels a bit flat under 3000 revs but if you wind it up and drive it then it becomes a different beast and feels capable, safe but very fast.
I've had Audi RS4's as daily drivers and the Porsche is a much nicer car to drive quickly
Copperman05
New member
Although the S2 probably does make a better daily drive, I don't think that stops it from being fun, the n/a car is arguably easier to drive on the limit. As much as I would like a turbo at some point I wont be selling my S2 for one, the n/a engine is so progressive and so useable across the rev range, it just seems to suit the chassis so well, balanced car, smooth engine, a real drivers car. I've driven a 250 turbo, and whilst it was certainly quick, it was a bit on off for me and not something I would enjoy driving in the wet.
In day to day driving or even on a track I doubt there is very little between the 220 turbo and the S2, but you gotta like the lure of the top of the range 944 250 turbo, with its bigger brakes, m030 stuff, air con, etc. Having said all that, its the original 220 with early offset I'd have, if just so it could wear some fuchs.[]
In day to day driving or even on a track I doubt there is very little between the 220 turbo and the S2, but you gotta like the lure of the top of the range 944 250 turbo, with its bigger brakes, m030 stuff, air con, etc. Having said all that, its the original 220 with early offset I'd have, if just so it could wear some fuchs.[
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Copperman05
New member
Made me laugh, but what the hell are you talking about Simon? Who's Dave?[
]Edd
I agree with Ed, my 2.7 was loads of fun, inspired confidence and you could just mash the throttle and off you go. Wet roundabouts were a joy, balancing the back end with the throttle and plenty of opposite lock. The chassis always felt sorted and in need of more power though.
The Turbo is a different beast, it's very quick but driving it quickly takes a lot more concentration. I've been bitten by the turbo spooling up and catching me out leading to a squeaky bum moment or two. It really is a slug of power and being honest I do miss the linear output of the NA cars. However, I've found that I've had to adjust my driving style and start to slowly find the limits again, when you get it right it's immensely satisfying though.
Boost is addictive though and I still smile when the turbo whooshes into life.
The Turbo is a different beast, it's very quick but driving it quickly takes a lot more concentration. I've been bitten by the turbo spooling up and catching me out leading to a squeaky bum moment or two. It really is a slug of power and being honest I do miss the linear output of the NA cars. However, I've found that I've had to adjust my driving style and start to slowly find the limits again, when you get it right it's immensely satisfying though.
Boost is addictive though and I still smile when the turbo whooshes into life.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
If you want to modify it and fiddle with it, a turbo. If you just want to get out and drive a near-perfect package, and never mess with it, an S2. Both are perfectly valid buys, they just suit different needs.
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