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And the point of this thread is.........? Is it to make me even more paranoid than I am already? Actually, I can't believe that John Simms hasn't locked or deleted this thread and barred the contributors from the forum!![:mad:][;)]. By the way, what other "swearing" thread are you talking about? Don't tell me i'm missing out on more juicy swear words!![:D]
 
The swear filter contracts any word, displaying only four asterisks, which suggests that an even less acceptable word was used.

I had said that the whole thread was a load of pointless b0ll0cks. There is noting wrong with the swearing policy and I couldnt give a fuck whether the filter is over-sensitive, removing the occasional mild word such as bugger (bu99er).
 

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Paul tries to be serious for a moment....[8|]

Time and time again, and the PMs I've had today also have two things in common in almost all of them, owners who don't post here tell me they don't like:

Firstly, that the user name/anonymity thing puts them off. They don't trust people who won't even put their real name in their profile. Choosing a clever ID is fine, but why not have your real name in your profile and sign with it as well? It seems only common courteousy to me.

Secondly, and I know it might seem stupid, but swearing really does put some people off. Right or wrong, forums are often portrayed as populated by rude, shouty, anonymous people. The more we do to avoid fitting this stereotype the better IMO.

Does it really make you feel your point gets across more strongly if you have beaten the forum's swear filter by some really clever swapping of letters? I'm not sure it does, but I'm very willing to admit I'm wrong when the answer to a single 944-related question can only be expressed by the use of the phrase "*hag-plie carpet" [:D][:D]

It's all about respecting other people's views, I guess. And, that really isn't a challenge to find a question about 944s where the only answer is *hag-pile carpet"....[&o]


I totally agree with you Paul. We have both seem some pretty daft postings on this forum over the many years that we have been admins and this must be one of the most ridiculous I have come across. I can't see the point of it at all. Just a rather childish attempt at banal banter.

Whilst Mr or Mrs zcacogp is endowed with an excellent gift for English language it seems a shame that he is lowering himself to this level.

Each to their own I guess. Now it time for me to duck and keep my head down!


 

ORIGINAL: Peter Bull

Just a rather childish attempt at banal banter.

You've identified it at the first stroke! Online forums; places for serious discussion about the stated topic and much else beside. Let me know if this is ever going to change and I'll be off to join somewhere a little less po-faced.

Sense of humour failure? [;)]


Oli.
 
Let me know if this is ever going to change and I'll be off to join somewhere a little less po-faced.

Sense of humour failure?

Hi Oli,

Whilst I've met you, know you well from the forum, and know you have a good sense of homour, I don't think it's po-faced to try to keep one forum, of the many, more grown-up and pleasant than others. You have to do something to keep it different, and as you say, anyone can always go somewhere else if all they want is willy-waving.

I include in my welcome letter to new members details of the forum. I've put details of the long list of 944 gatherings this year in the next mag, thanks to Glenn's comprehensive list, but can't get all the details in due to space restrictions, so again directed people to the forums. It has to be a place that the people who need that info feel happy coming to, as it's primarily a valuable source of info and help for the Club members and other Porsche owners and enthusiasts.

I get a LOT of calls and emails asking for event details, technical advise, insurance help, all sorts of things. Almost invariably the answer is here if they looked. The number one reason they give for not joining the forums, or not posting if they are members (most members never post), is that they perceive forums as places full of anonymous bullies who'll laugh at their silly question, and the "tone" is all shouty and rude.

This forum is more polite than most; I don't know if that's a bad thing, but it should be welcoming to new people. That can't, and won't, change, or it wouldn't be as succesful. The occasional reminder can't do any harm, can it? [:)]
 
Fair point Paul, and well made. I hear what you say but would suggest that, without humour, this forum will become the very definition of po-faced; "piously or hypocritically solemn", "wearing a disapproving stern expression", "having an overly serious demeanor or attitude; humorless" (choose your dictionary source as you will, they all amount to the same thing.)

In your "Where do we go from here" thread, several strengths of this forum have been remarked upon. And one of the consistent themes in that thread has been the humour on here. Or, to put it in Paul Smith's words, "the <forum> inhabited by real people". Real people laugh. Real people giggle at things which are naughty. Real people do things they aren't meant to do, get into scrapes and very little real harm comes from it. Squeeze out real behaviour from this forum and the real people will be the next through the door. If this forum is to become a list of 944 events and some technical advice then it could be efficiently replaced with a link to Clark's Garage and the 944 Workshop Manuals, and a calender of noteworthy dates. Would we want this? Really?

With the greatest of respect to Mr Bull (and I note his "Administrator" motif), he is not a regular here and neither is he a 944 (/24/68) owner. I've no idea what the culture is in the 997 or Z3 forums, but would suggest that this thread in no way offends the culture here. Other posts (above) prove it. Yes, we are good at welcoming newcomers, but when a newcomer turns up and dismisses things as 'ridiculous' I wonder how welcome he is. ETA: OK, that last sentence is a bit fierce, but the point stands.

A seldom-told fact from the very start of my 944 ownership was that the previous owner of my car warned me off joining the PCGB, describing them as (and I quote) "A bunch of snooty cravat-wearing people who disapprove of any Porsche that is not a 911". Up until now, I considered myself happy to discover that he was wrong. One incident in six years makes for poor statistics, and I'm hoping this is a one-off.


Oli.
 

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Fair point Paul, and well made. I hear what you say but would suggest that, without humour, this forum will become the very definition of po-faced; "piously or hypocritically solemn", "wearing a disapproving stern expression", "having an overly serious demeanor or attitude; humorless" (choose your dictionary source as you will, they all amount to the same thing.)

In your "Where do we go from here" thread, several strengths of this forum have been remarked upon. And one of the consistent themes in that thread has been the humour on here. Or, to put it in Paul Smith's words, "the <forum> inhabited by real people". Real people laugh. Real people giggle at things which are naughty. Real people do things they aren't meant to do, get into scrapes and very little real harm comes from it. Squeeze out real behaviour from this forum and the real people will be the next through the door. If this forum is to become a list of 944 events and some technical advice then it could be efficiently replaced with a link to Clark's Garage and the 944 Workshop Manuals, and a calender of noteworthy dates. Would we want this? Really?

With the greatest of respect to Mr Bull (and I note his "Administrator" motif), he is not a regular here and neither is he a 944 (/24/68) owner. I've no idea what the culture is in the 997 or Z3 forums, but would suggest that this thread in no way offends the culture here. Other posts (above) prove it. Yes, we are good at welcoming newcomers, but when a newcomer turns up and dismisses things as 'ridiculous' I wonder how welcome he is. ETA: OK, that last sentence is a bit fierce, but the point stands.

A seldom-told fact from the very start of my 944 ownership was that the previous owner of my car warned me off joining the PCGB, describing them as (and I quote) "A bunch of snooty cravat-wearing people who disapprove of any Porsche that is not a 911". Up until now, I considered myself happy to discover that he was wrong. One incident in six years makes for poor statistics, and I'm hoping this is a one-off.


Oli.


100 % with you on this Oli.
You and people similar to yourself are the reason I use this forum. If we can't have the occasional argument or a giggle then what is the point of having a forum. I always thought a forum was an area for free speech.
I have enjoyed a few laughs on here as well as a couple of good arguments. One of the arguers has now gone ( I don't think she is missed ) and the other is still on the forum and I am sure there is no hard feelings between us and we are pals.
 

ORIGINAL: colin944

100 % with you on this Oli.
You .... are the reason I use this forum.

Aw, fanks Big Boy! [:)] Oscar Wilde said he could live for two weeks on a compliment, which sets me up nicely until the weather is due to improve. And it's almost my birthday too!

(Who was the female arguer? I didn't think there were many - or any - girls on this forum.)


Oli.
 
Just a suggestion, but in other forums I've belonged to, they've had a 'generally messing about' type topic area for people to post in about anything. This saves 'cluttering up' specific areas with posts that might annoy other users. It also serves the purpose of allowing people to chat who wouldn't usually interact together due to their interest in different, specialist areas. I personally have no problem with jokey posts in a forum, but can understand why some would.
 

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

In your "Where do we go from here" thread, several strengths of this forum have been remarked upon. And one of the consistent themes in that thread has been the humour on here. Or, to put it in Paul Smith's words, "the <forum> inhabited by real people". Real people laugh. Real people giggle at things which are naughty. Real people do things they aren't meant to do, get into scrapes and very little real harm comes from it. Squeeze out real behaviour from this forum and the real people will be the next through the door. If this forum is to become a list of 944 events and some technical advice then it could be efficiently replaced with a link to Clark's Garage and the 944 Workshop Manuals, and a calender of noteworthy dates. Would we want this? Really?

Yes.

If you want to have a laugh and give people the opportunity to put your jokes or comments in the context you would like them to be taken, which cannot get through with this present form of communication, go to the meetings and (try to) socialise for real.
 
I can't help feel that this all a bit of a storm in a tea cup from both sides of the fence. Most if not all of the posters in Pauls "where do we go from here ?" thread, stated that overall they are pretty happy with the way this forum is. Of course we all have slightly different preferences and are happy/unhappy to differing degrees on differing issues but I think its right to say that the consensus is that this forum is a pretty good place with a decent balance of attitudes and levels of moderation, certainly compared with the alternatives out there.

I know for a fact that Paul (and others no doubt) have fought battles with others who may or may not be po faced and may or may not wear cravats but who do want the forum to be closed to non-members, more heavily moderated and all that sort of misguided nonsense.

What he needs is our support and co-operation not only to keep and protect the forum in its current state but to improve it in the future. It may sound corny but in the end we are a community of sorts and just like any other community no single persons view of how things should be can prevail if it is to remain as such. Just like any other community a certain amount of compromise and understanding of others sensibilities and opinions are needed. The forum is a resource we can use and improve if we are sensible and tolerant of others or lose if it all gets silly and Pistonheads on us. Yes we could all go elsewhere (or try to) but in all honesty I think any alternative would end up inferior to what we have here and be full of posts harking back to the good old days of this forum.

This place should be what it is already -a fun, friendly, informative and at times irreverant mix of posts, discussions and nonsense. Everything else is just irrelevant.
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp

With the greatest of respect to Mr Bull (and I note his "Administrator" motif), he is not a regular here and neither is he a 944 (/24/68) owner. I've no idea what the culture is in the 997 or Z3 forums, but would suggest that this thread in no way offends the culture here. Other posts (above) prove it. Yes, we are good at welcoming newcomers, but when a newcomer turns up and dismisses things as 'ridiculous' I wonder how welcome he is. ETA: OK, that last sentence is a bit fierce, but the point stands.

Oli.

Newcomer eh! lol

Whilst you may think I am not a regular here, let me assure you that I lurk about every day and quietly get on with my admin tasks as required of my role across the whole forum. I have been an Admin for over 11 years now and was party to its inception into the club in 2002.

I post on all areas of the forum where necessary and I can assure you that the 944 holds dear to my heart as it was the first Porsche I owned from 1989 until 1994.

I leave it to those who have more time on their hands to show off their prowess and rather grand use of our literary prose. I like a good laugh like the rest of our members and I can assure you that with over 20 years of service in the RN I am used to have good banter with all type of people from all walks of life.

What I do find ridiculous is postings like this that I consider pointless and childish and hiding behind pseudonym is hardly helpful either.

You describe yourself as a lounge lizard "" how apt!

PS: It's a Z4 not Z3
 
I'm not going to argue on-line Peter. Best of luck doing so, but that's something I have neither time nor patience for.


Oli.
 
Come on guys - let's change the flow to discussions of how to make routine servicing more interesting....


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Mike! Where did you get that picture of my wife pulling on my dipstick? :rolleyes:

Perhaps this thread really has run it's course. When the person who set this forum up, and has administered it ever since, is called a noob, then we are getting silly. [:eek:]
 

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