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PCCM upgrade

i meant keeping the OEM unit and adding in feastures like DAB, jukebox, Airplay etc
I know you can add carplay but are the other features available ? - if so - whats the cost vs the pccm - carplay is a 3rd party add on - good but it fakes being a TV card - there are compromises in the feature set - on it's own - the functionality wins - but if want more then there must be a point at which there's value in the new setup.

Personal choices of course - me - 2k for carplay not worth it - but 2k for updated head, modern nav, same integration with additions, carplay / android auto (wireless), dab and phone/bluetooth audio (not available in 987.2 natively) is tempting for me
 
Users guide and faq available from oorsche website

 
It looks a lovely unit and would certainly upgrade the car, but that's a massive price for a unit that will be used how often?

I have the Autoabc conversion on my 997.2, completed by myself and like others have successfully added a reverse camera. I am also thinking of adding a front camera during the winter. Reason for camera is I have no parking aids and is less intrusive than fitting reversing sensors, the camera works well and has made a world of difference in my confidence in parking the 911.
CarPlay works well, phone connectivity is good, it is very clear and music streams well.

Cost for unit in a sale from AutoABC 18 months ago was £159.00, both cameras under £40
Fitting time was a few hours, unit fitting took me two hours, the rest of hours was spent running the wiring from the rear to the front.

Word of warning working inside the PCM unit is a very heat affected PCB and wiring, so if your not careful can break the fittings and you will end up buying the PCCM+ anyway.

If you consider the summer use of my 911 and amount of time I actually spent listening to music, telephone calls using maps I doubt I could justify the £2500.oo likely cost and fitting of the PCCM+, I would still have to fit cameras on top of that.

If your a purist your 997.2 will no longer look original either as looking at the pictures of the unit it is very sleek and modern. If I had the budget, no skills in fitting the system I have, would certainly put it on my Christmas list. I wonder how long it will take the Chinese to replicate the PCCM+, if it is not already sitting on the shelves! Porsche never does itself any favours when it comes to over pricing.
 
I have an AliExpress unit at the moment - it looks very factory and works “well enough” - especially as I use it primarily as a CarPlay display device for navigation - it’s “better” than when I had the Mr 12V CarPlay adapter in the original PCM - and that was a pain to get everything back in the dash without stressing all the components. I am now hearing of pricing including fitting of around £2000 - and thats before any discounts or any OPC vs OPC negotiation.

Expensive yes - and a lot of folks will choose other options - but having tried pretty much all varieties of alternatives then I still find myself wanting more - if PCCM+ wasn’t an option - then I would be sticking with what i have but for my use case, I want the integration that I lost previously and I like the feature set described - it’s a considerable step up from the PCCM+ units for the 9x7.1 cars.
 
Just to ask here.

My 987.2 CS just has the radio and CD player, not PCM. Any idea if the PCCM+ will be a direct replacement or will additional fitments/wiring be required?

Jeff
 
I did read that the car needed to have had and entertainment system originally fitted - no mention of it needed to be a PCM - it's a unit replacement ( along with replacement aerial amplifiers) then think you will be OK - might be different story of car originally was specced with radio delete - OPC (eventually) should be able to confirm.
 
Looks great but no way I’d spend the money on it!

Much prefer the OEM with the AliExpress board upgrade, retains the essence of the 997 but adds all the modern features life has become accustom to, and at a fraction (quite literally) of the cost!

Be interested to see how the new unit will look if anyone goes for one though
 
The official ones are not yet available but there are many aliexpress ones that look factory ( I have one in my 987.2)
 
Reading Porsche Post (August) pages 100 - 103 the guy is driving a 997.2 and says on page 103 he's got a PCM upgrade. Looking at the pictures it looks like this one https://vehicle-accessories.porsche.com/prod/pag/Vehicle/Accessories.nsf/Finder?ReadForm&co=106&ac=product&pr=16B4EAB2A58BAEF6C1258E35002D21CE&content=classic&content=classic&ba=911&bt=997 II

Could anyone clarify
It looks like the original unit as you can see the SIM card slot at the side, but it has probably been updated with a new motherboard such as the ones supplied by Joyaudio, Mr 12 volt etc. This gives it CarPlay. There are positives and negatives in using these (lots of people have done this) as it is a cost effective option rather than a new OE headhunt that's coming on line.
 
Spoke to my dealer about this and they said they don't have a price yet. Gave me the price of the old one £1400+VAT which is already expensive but I would stomach that for a proper solution to in car entertainment. Not sure how many units they're expecting to move if they really go for much more than that. There are a lot of 997s out there, but there are more Caymans and Boxsters unless they assume the 987 brigade all have the £200 alibaba specials and aren't worth targetting?
 
The target is probably those who are spending 1200+ at car audio specialists for a 300 quid kenwood install.

There’s plenty of folks willing to spend that by the looks.

I like the idea of a newer pcm after having gone down both the mr12v pcm 3 CarPlay and then an AliExpress unit paths- both were ok - both left me wanting something more

I have seen people being quoted approx 2k supply and fit for a 981 from OPC’s - I imagine the 9x7 will be similar when they actually release it.
 
2k supply and fitted would be cheaper than the 997.1 version (I think?)

Labour at Porsche is circa 190+vat and the unit itself is 1400+vat. I don't see the install being done in under 2h but who knows.... We just have to wait.

2k is one thing, but 3.5+fitting (which is what's been banded around so far) is taking the michael.
 
I've booked a provisional install slot with my nearby dealer for next month, dealer suggests the parts will likely be with them this month, but I'm away for a few weeks so that delay is on me.

Either way, price is the same as .1 (~1400+VAT) plus a few hundred on antennas (DAB + cell) if you don't already have those from PCM3 or whatever.

It's a lot of money but I think it'll transform the car on the road and won't lose all the money as it'll definitely be a plus point at resale vs the CDR24. I'll post a review once I've had chance to use it.
 
I've booked a provisional install slot with my nearby dealer for next month, dealer suggests the parts will likely be with them this month, but I'm away for a few weeks so that delay is on me.

Either way, price is the same as .1 (~1400+VAT) plus a few hundred on antennas (DAB + cell) if you don't already have those from PCM3 or whatever.

It's a lot of money but I think it'll transform the car on the road and won't lose all the money as it'll definitely be a plus point at resale vs the CDR24. I'll post a review once I've had chance to use it.
I'll be following you in the New Year. Looking forward to reading your thoughts on the unit and its features.
 

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