North/South

[ianthow]

Perhaps the club should have consulted with members and looked at other options for splitting the register before announcing this change. The more obvious split, rather than geographic (we already have Regional structures), would be by model numbers (986, 987, 981 and 982[718]), mirroring the situation with the many 911 registers. With additional registers, the problem could be finding volunteers to be the Register Secretaries, but then again, there may be members who would be enthusiastic to carry the flag for their preferred model. The increased number of registers could be alleviated slightly by merging same models of Boxster and Cayman. The logic is that there is more technical commonality between each model so general advice and technical support would be more focussed. There might even be scope for a separate GT/Spyder register as with 911 models.
It will be interesting to see opinions from other forum participants.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

Hi Ian.
Making so many specific variants is not financially viable,
You have to think of the cost and space in the PP .
Even this South Register creates more expense, agree we have Regions I don't see where a RS lives location wise of any relevance.

On a Technical note we have got Steve Winter who owns and runs a Porsche independent and race team with a wealth of knowledge in all variants working on them daily, also Nike Pike a very knowledgeable guy on all things Boxster his support to members and the Boxster team has been superb.
I agree no consideration has been given to the split some suggested an assistant in a different location might be the way to go, but where ever located will never be a right place for some after all is that not why we have Regions.
My view we are alienating dividing members of the model same goes for social media of the Register it would be much better under one umbrella
Thus making life easier to communicate with fellow likeminded .
Personally more creates just more confusion.

All only my views of course what really counts how we can serve members
to the best we can.

Regards Cliff.

 

[Nick_USA]

They are many ways to run additional events for register members across the whole of the UK without the need to create another unnecessary North/South divide. Our country has enough of these issues without our Club taking part.

Perhaps someone could give a justification for numbers in the new areas ...

There are approximately 3,100 members in our register, yet the new North split ends up with about 700 and the South with 2,200 members. [The other 100 sit in the Channel Islands, Northern Island and a few that are overseas].

I will be polite, how is this a fair, equitable split?

I had hoped I would find some clues in published board minutes yet as of today these are now 6 months in arrears.

 

[BrianJ]

I’ve never seen any published definition of North and South so not sure how the average member would know which one you are supposed to be in and how many members are in each. To be honest I don’t really care - I value all the Boxster-related resources and shall continue to participate in relevant activities wherever they are depending on content, timing and location. Having two different people volunteering to organise such things in different parts of the country is great and should be appreciated by all, but I can’t imagine why it has to be marketed as a “split” which seems unnecessarily divisive. To me, it’s just more.

 

[ianthow]

I can’t imagine why it has to be marketed as a “split” which seems unnecessarily divisive. To me, it’s just more.

Brian, you are spot on there.

 

[ralphmusic]

Will the “Contact Preferences” be amended to allow selection of North and/or South?

 

[jed]

Seems like any discussion on the spitting of the Boxster register on the Boxster South forum is now banned. Nothing like a good democratic debate....

I posted

John Mutter Porsche Club GB - Boxster South​

Subsequent to the email from the club office regarding the register split that I think all register members have just received, I have responded with the email below, and wonder what others not directly involved in the decision feel
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I’d be the first to congratulate the board for stabilizing the Club after all the trauma of the EGM a couple of years ago, and for putting PCGB on a much more solid financial footing; additionally, much of the work done by the current board, including the revamp of Porsche Post is to be applauded.
Subsequent to the EGM, there was a lot talk from the new board, of wanting to make PCGB a more democratic, inclusive, organisation for all members, broadening out the base from what many perceived, rightly or wrongly, a 911 bias, and much has been done to achieve this, which makes the somewhat heavy handed decision, without any in depth consultation of register members, to split the Boxster register into two regions, not even equal in members, very hard to understand. I firmly believe this action should be put on hold whilst a proper survey is done of those in the register to see if those actually affected by the decision are in favour of it progressing or not.
The splitting of the Facebook and Instagram groups is equally difficult to fathom, particularly the Facebook decision. Surely one source of information regarding all issues, technical or otherwise should be the way to go.
I intend to put a copy of this note on the North / South thread in the Boxster section of the Forum.

And after a reply from another member agreeing with me the post got deleted with the following message

Feedback​

John, Please write to the club using the correct channels rather than using our social media platform.
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I'm beginning to think this whole process reeks of a stitch up

 

[Nick_USA]

To answer the Q of where the divide has been carried out, it seems that the North is everything North of and includes the East Midlands. However, if you're in the West Midlands, you are [currently] in the South.

Why is the West Midlands in the South? Could it be that the South assistant perhaps harks from there or that prior to being an official he ran a West Midlands Boxster group, who knows, but I suspect that I might be close to the truth.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

That explains it all Nick
RS South is hardly far flung south.

 

[ianthow]

Hi Ian.
Making so many specific variants is not financially viable,
You have to think of the cost and space in the PP .
Even this South Register creates more expense, agree we have Regions I don't see where a RS lives location wise of any relevance.

On a Technical note we have got Steve Winter who owns and runs a Porsche independent and race team with a wealth of knowledge in all variants working on them daily, also Nike Pike a very knowledgeable guy on all things Boxster his support to members and the Boxster team has been superb.
I agree no consideration has been given to the split some suggested an assistant in a different location might be the way to go, but where ever located will never be a right place for some after all is that not why we have Regions.
My view we are alienating dividing members of the model same goes for social media of the Register it would be much better under one umbrella
Thus making life easier to communicate with fellow likeminded .
Personally more creates just more confusion.

All only my views of course what really counts how we can serve members
to the best we can.

Regards Cliff.

Cliff,

I think that using financial viability as an excuse for not splitting the Boxster/Cayman into separate registers is rather weak. Apparently there are 3,000 member linked to the Boxster register. This is about 13% of the total membership, all paying members. In total, there are 37 separate registers in the club, some of a very niche nature, i.e the Boxster Register is only 2.7% of ALL registers yet their dues add up to 13% of the dues paid by all members.
If the total number of registers is presenting a financial burden, before dismissing member suggestions, perhaps the club should review the list in total to ensure fair representation across the membership.
Regarding the "Technical note", these resources are all well and good, but it is just two people. Within the membership owning 986, 987, 981 and 982, there will be many members able to contribute specialist relevant answers to questions about their preferred model. I certainly try to on 987 matters.
Like you, these are only my views as a ordinary member.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

Ian
With respect try finding an RS for every Boxster variant.
Plus I think we are dividing the group even more by doing so.

If you are an official you will know finances do come into play.

Regards the two Technical guys we have I can confirm they are well up to the task Steve Winter has unlimited knowledge having a Porsche Garage for years.
But we encourage members like yourself to contribute on here or FB.



As yourself my opinion.