Non Sunroof - How Rare?
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bmnelsc
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I have a 91 S2 sans sun roof and a fellow club member (PCA Polar Region - Northern Alberta, Canada) has an 89 S2 sans sunroof. Both of our cars were originally Japanese delivery with no cruise control, regular 4 speaker stereo (not sure if they had a stereo or were just prepared for radio - I had to change out the Sony that was in mine because it couldn't tune to North American frequencies), no air bags and adjustable headlights with E code halogens. I understand this was a popular configuration in Japan (along with left hand drive even tho Japan drives from the right side).
North American delivery 944s usually came with all the options as they were a premium priced vehicle here. I would think sun roof delete would have been a special order car rather than a purchase from dealer stock so probably a pretty low percentage of North American delivery cars were sans sun roof.
North American delivery 944s usually came with all the options as they were a premium priced vehicle here. I would think sun roof delete would have been a special order car rather than a purchase from dealer stock so probably a pretty low percentage of North American delivery cars were sans sun roof.
VanhireBoys
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I wonder if thats the car I saw at Silverstone.. It was a Silver Rose, non sunroof , with the wing decal ! Rare !
Now that you mention it I have only seen one other non sunroof , an 85 Lux in Guards Red at the Moutbellew show in 2009.
MarkK
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My ex race car was a Turbo S and had no sunroof,before it was transformed into a race car it deffo felt stiffer through the body shell,people always say the sunroof cars are reinforced and are as stiff but that's a load of baloney unfortunately,my remaining 89 and 90 roadcar turbos both have sunroofs...drat!!!
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Non sunroof cars also look a bit different side on just a bit in my book.
]Non sunroof cars also look a bit different side on just a bit in my book.
Black Beauty
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Mine doesn't have a sunroof. It is also black which makes it even better![8D]
pauljmcnulty
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I'm sure some were optioned with one, but in theory yes.
So, why? The sunroof was listed as an option in my 1986 brochure, yet almost all cars have it. Why for the top of the range car did they delete it? It was hardly a stripped-out racer. [8|]
MarkK
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The Turbo S whilst not an RS type vehicle was in it's day quite focused,bigger brakes,LSD,adjustable Konis,thicker ARBs,extra gearbox oil cooler light forged CS wheels and it was marketed as a road version of the Turbo cup,a limited edition 250 brake version so the non sunroof was to make it a more focused stiffer body shell version and it must be lighter aswell high up in the car,the 250 became standard after that as we all know,Clio Williams reaction from Turbo S customers at the time no doubt.
944 man
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The sunroof was a mandatory option in the UK; certainly for the 1989 model year, and possibly before too. Some original buyers avoided this, and the associated cost, but Im not sure how; as I were only a lad when they were new...
The 'sunroof cars are stiffer' myth originated, I believe, from the statement made in Peter Morgans book. As with most books like this it has a fair few mistakes in it, which end up becoming forum-lore...
My 1985 series one car is without a sunroof, but this isnt as rare in earlier cars; although it is fully optioned in every other respect.
Outrun944
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Wonder if that was mine before I bought it?
Yep I have an '85 Lux without a sunroof. The only thing I know about this is on the V5 - "WAS REGISTERED/USED OVERSEAS. DECLARED MANUFACTURED 1985." It was then registered and sold on the 1st August 1986. Where it was imported from and why I don't know.
Hilux
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My late 98 944T had no sunroof.
It was a Silver Rose spec but with striped Burgundy upholstery - originally spec`d/ordered by a British Military chap on secondment to the US so went to Nevada for a while before being brought to the UK. I always assumed the sun was so hot out in the desert it didnt need one.
Took me ages to find one without a s/r as I think they look miles better and the s/r`s on cars I tested (I personally found) were a PITA, noisy, buffeted the car and the head room was reduced.
Here`s my old car................
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It was a Silver Rose spec but with striped Burgundy upholstery - originally spec`d/ordered by a British Military chap on secondment to the US so went to Nevada for a while before being brought to the UK. I always assumed the sun was so hot out in the desert it didnt need one.
Took me ages to find one without a s/r as I think they look miles better and the s/r`s on cars I tested (I personally found) were a PITA, noisy, buffeted the car and the head room was reduced.
Here`s my old car................
Nice looking car Paul,
Euro Spec Turbo S cars do NOT have sunroofs,(the yanks decided they wanted them......Genius !) all MY88 E or F plate, most "E" Plates are Silverose Colour Trim, later ones come in all sorts of trim colour combos, this was because a lot of customers would have bought a Silverose but did not like the colour trim.
Porsche took this onboard and made them available in what ever colour combo the customer desired, looks as though a lot of the the following year cars carried MO30 chassis (89 cars) but most came with sunroofs, any that i have seen.
Saw an early Lux recently with sunroof delete, which was not an option on Turbo S BTW (Except in the good ol USA)
I personaly prefer the cleaner lines.
Euro Spec Turbo S cars do NOT have sunroofs,(the yanks decided they wanted them......Genius !) all MY88 E or F plate, most "E" Plates are Silverose Colour Trim, later ones come in all sorts of trim colour combos, this was because a lot of customers would have bought a Silverose but did not like the colour trim.
Porsche took this onboard and made them available in what ever colour combo the customer desired, looks as though a lot of the the following year cars carried MO30 chassis (89 cars) but most came with sunroofs, any that i have seen.
Saw an early Lux recently with sunroof delete, which was not an option on Turbo S BTW (Except in the good ol USA)
I personaly prefer the cleaner lines.
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