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Pauly, that looks just "right" would prefer an oval tail pipe though, as an aside Scams turbo on TIPEC is the lowest Turbo i have ever seen, the Dub lads would approve. [:D]

I agree it looks right, but would it ride right on the road ?. I considered dropping mine like that when I took it to Center Gravity to have the alignment done, after a chat about ball joints and bump steer I went for something not quite so slammed.

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With the exception of speed bumps I cant't really complain about any issues after it was set up properly for it's new ride height. It handles very well with the lowering and the other steering and suspension mods done.

Stuart
 
Errr... There is standard and standard.
Late S2/turbos that came with the standard suspension really do look like tractors and do not handle as they should.
Perhaps Porsche decided to alter the handling so that less focused persons could drive them, but that's not the way to enjoy these cars, as even when driven sedately they do benefit from lowering the ride height about an inch.

I was shocked how much better my S2 handled after I replaced the original front springs with 968 CS springs, which lowered the front about an inch and I think made it look the way it should.
Look at the before/after pics there : http://www.asarus.com/pratique/ressorts_s2/
It looked just plain wrong on standard springs, front end nearly facing the skies. I didn't touch the rear height.

My comment here stands for late S2/turbos that are fitted as standard with 16" tyres of a lower profile than other 944, which seem to have been set with a better balanced front/rear pitch with their 15" wheels and higher profile tyres.
 
Here's mine shortly after I got it, before the start of the restoration work.

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As I bought it, it was far from the worst 944 in the world: drives well; very good engine, transmission and a really nice interior (and yes, the clock both works and lights up...). But, as it turned out, it was far from the best in the world either. Long story, and one I shall tell in its own thread in due course.

To cut that long story short, having had the mechanicals thoroughly refreshed and modernised, I counted my pennies, weighed them against my intention to keep the car until I am too old to drive it, threw caution to the winds and decided to get the whole thing made as good as it can possibly be. So I bit the bullet and it's some months into a major body restoration. Here it is a few weeks ago...

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ORIGINAL: pauly


ORIGINAL: Frenchy

Pauly, that looks just "right" would prefer an oval tail pipe though, as an aside Scams turbo on TIPEC is the lowest Turbo i have ever seen, the Dub lads would approve. [:D]

I agree it looks right, but would it ride right on the road ?. I considered dropping mine like that when I took it to Center Gravity to have the alignment done, after a chat about ball joints and bump steer I went for something not quite so slammed.

DSC00051.jpg


With the exception of speed bumps I cant't really complain about any issues after it was set up properly for it's new ride height. It handles very well with the lowering and the other steering and suspension mods done.

Stuart

If you're happy with the setup that's all that matters, like I said I was going to set mine up like that but I didn't see the point in using one of the best geo guys in the country and then not taking his advice for my intended use, who did you use to set your car up ?. I know there are modified ball joints that overcome potential issues related to lowered cars but as I didn't have them fitted I prefered to not take the chance of a failure however rare that may be.

 
Wow LT, I didn't think the resto was going that deep!!!
We will really be at the opposite ends of the 951 spectrum!
 
Now you know why I haven't been round with it this summer! It's been at Daytona since May, and as always these things take time... though it is frustrating I did have a good blat round it in during the Spring to shake down all the good work done on the drivetrain and suspension by Hartech and Promax, and it really was going well. I'm *hoping* to have it back before the snow falls this winter, but I've told them not to spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar.
 
Lowtimer that is some project, should be great when it is finished, regards looks my 220 Turbo looks standard apart from a slight lower at the rear and 16 mm concentric spacers on the rear and 7mm shims on the front.
My turbo s is lowered at the rear and will be going down on the front tomorrow by about 20mm by using the adjusters on the M030 Konis, i will also be fitting front anti roll bar bracing brackets (bought a set then got some more made up in stainless 304) a set for t'other car and a set for my mates Turbo.
The Turbo S also runs Cup 1'S and CS Recaros from a 968, this is the way i wanted the car but could easily be returned to standard.
Keep toying with the idea of a cage but would not really fancy drilling or welding the car ??
Best of both IMO
 
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ORIGINAL: scam75


ORIGINAL: pauly


ORIGINAL: Frenchy

Pauly, that looks just "right" would prefer an oval tail pipe though, as an aside Scams turbo on TIPEC is the lowest Turbo i have ever seen, the Dub lads would approve. [:D]

I agree it looks right, but would it ride right on the road ?. I considered dropping mine like that when I took it to Center Gravity to have the alignment done, after a chat about ball joints and bump steer I went for something not quite so slammed.

DSC00051.jpg


With the exception of speed bumps I cant't really complain about any issues after it was set up properly for it's new ride height. It handles very well with the lowering and the other steering and suspension mods done.

Stuart

If you're happy with the setup that's all that matters, like I said I was going to set mine up like that but I didn't see the point in using one of the best geo guys in the country and then not taking his advice for my intended use, who did you use to set your car up ?. I know there are modified ball joints that overcome potential issues related to lowered cars but as I didn't have them fitted I prefered to not take the chance of a failure however rare that may be.

It was done by Pro-Grip in Bonnybridge on Alasdair's recommendation Pauly on a Hunter machine. No ball joint issues after 2 years.

Stuart
 
RSR that is LUSH !!!

Love the look from the rear, are they 16" Fuch ?

Scam, have you fitted the chips sent ?
 
ORIGINAL: pauly
I suppose it's not an issue until one breaks, it's my understanding the ideal setup is to run the control arms level, I'd be interested to see what angle yours sit at.

I could not answer that without checking. They can't be far off level though. I will check tomorrow in the daylight!

Frenchy - Not yet, got a day planned a week on Friday hopefully with Alasdair to fit the chips, FPR, apexi and boost gauge then get it set up on a rolling road. I've got a snazzy carbon fibre plate made up to house the apexi and boost gauge in the cubby. Will post pics soon!!

Stuart
 
Hi Steve, out of interest, what size are your fuchs? would agree that spacers would help at rear. How does it drive on them?

Alan.
 
ORIGINAL: loc944

Hi Steve, out of interest, what size are your fuchs? would agree that spacers would help at rear. How does it drive on them?

Alan.

They are 7x16 ET23 all round. I removed the stock 21mm spacer at the rear as it was too much. Just ordered a 10mm to go the back. Front sits proud by no more than 10mm on top of the wheel arch with max camber the GAZ and stock 931 hubs will give. Could do with more camber but need new top mounts to push in further to tuck the wheel into the arch more.

As for driving the steering is surprisingly light. The 45 profile tyres gives more road noise and +/- feedback. A little tram lining, turns in sweet but not pushed it yet as the tyres are still too green. However what this set up shows up most is the bushes all need doing as you can feel a bit of play and rattle in the set up due to stiff suspension and no tyre flex.
 

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