Could the 718 replacement be an EV?
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Brian_Innes said:
Re EVs on track use, at Silverstone in September I shared a large garage with a Rally Escort and a Tesla, the latter was recharged midday at the "nearby" M1 Services. The Escort owner replaced that with a race VW Golf in the afternoon. Also there was a guy I know from a RSR Nordschleife and Spa double header in his much modified Alfa 4C which was tended to (changing from wet settings to dry in the paddock) by a race team that support him on trackdays.
We can be a real mix on trackdays.
Ralph
Interesting to read that the Macan EV prototypes finally are out on the road … and it’s still 2-years off release!
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electric-vehicles/2023-porsche-macan-ev-revealed-testing/44132
It’s been about 2-years since Porsche announced that the replacement for the current Macan would be an EV, so if the next Cayman also is going to be electric and we’ve still yet to hear an announcement, I reckon that the current 718 is going to be around for quite a few years yet, although surely it will get some sort of refresh fairly soon? Maybe Porsche are mulling-over making it a mild-hybrid in the intervening period?
Jeff
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electric-vehicles/2023-porsche-macan-ev-revealed-testing/44132
It’s been about 2-years since Porsche announced that the replacement for the current Macan would be an EV, so if the next Cayman also is going to be electric and we’ve still yet to hear an announcement, I reckon that the current 718 is going to be around for quite a few years yet, although surely it will get some sort of refresh fairly soon? Maybe Porsche are mulling-over making it a mild-hybrid in the intervening period?
Jeff
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Yes, building a plant in Chile for Porsche's Synthetic eFuel Could Make ICE Cars as Clean as EVs (caranddriver.com)
Doubt that it`ll delay governments policies though ...
Doubt that it`ll delay governments policies though ...
I’m afraid that Andrew’s right Jason. Car manufacturers - Porsche included - are committed to an electric future and synthetic fuel will only provide a short-term reprieve for the IC engine. I’m sure that synthetic fuel will only play a very small part in Porsche CEO Oliver Blume’s ambitious goal of having a CO2-neutral balance sheet by the end of the decade.Jase1969 said:
Incidentally there’s an article on synthetic fuel on p46 of this month’s PP.
Jeff
At long last we have an answer!
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-718-cayman-and-boxster-go-electric-2025
Although short on detail, at least Porsche has confirmed what we all knew. It looks as though the 718’s going to be around for a while yet though. Have said that, a lot will depend upon Euro 2024 compliance for both the I-4T and F-6 Engines.
Jeff
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-718-cayman-and-boxster-go-electric-2025
Although short on detail, at least Porsche has confirmed what we all knew. It looks as though the 718’s going to be around for a while yet though. Have said that, a lot will depend upon Euro 2024 compliance for both the I-4T and F-6 Engines.
Jeff
Agreed Dan, but as Dave pointed out it’s just a lazy rendering of the Mission R concept. I guess we’re going to have to wait a while to see what actually materialises with the test mules when Porsche gets beyond stuffing an electric powertrain in a few 718s.
Incidentally, I can’t believe that I kicked-off this thread more than 3-years ago!
Jeff
Incidentally, I can’t believe that I kicked-off this thread more than 3-years ago!
Jeff
Jeff,Motorhead said:Agreed Dan, but as Dave pointed out it’s just a lazy rendering of the Mission R concept. I guess we’re going to have to wait a while to see what actually materialises with the test mules when Porsche gets beyond stuffing an electric powertrain in a few 718s.
Incidentally, I can’t believe that I kicked-off this thread more than 3-years ago!
Jeff
You are ahead of your time.
Here’s a piece on Porsche’s experimental all-electric Cayman GT4 based upon a development of the 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport’s chassis:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electric-vehicles/porsche-shows-all-electric-cayman-gt4-eperformance/45683
Jeff
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electric-vehicles/porsche-shows-all-electric-cayman-gt4-eperformance/45683
Jeff
Very impressive and quite an exciting prospect.
Just imagine the dilemma for the marketing department: Do we make the next Cayman fast, very fast, super fast, hyper-fast or illegally and insanely fast? It unfortunately also increases the urgency that 'Big Brother' applies to taking control of our motoring. They can't legislate for electric scooters effectively at the moment so the 'ban them all' brigade will get more vociferous. But the possibility that anyone with a current driving licence could go out and rent / finance / purchase a car with this sort of power really does get a bit frightening.
Just imagine the dilemma for the marketing department: Do we make the next Cayman fast, very fast, super fast, hyper-fast or illegally and insanely fast? It unfortunately also increases the urgency that 'Big Brother' applies to taking control of our motoring. They can't legislate for electric scooters effectively at the moment so the 'ban them all' brigade will get more vociferous. But the possibility that anyone with a current driving licence could go out and rent / finance / purchase a car with this sort of power really does get a bit frightening.
I agree on both counts John, though the GT4 e-performance is more a race car than a production development tool, and the Porsche marketing department is going to have trouble reining-in the engineers to control the electric Cayman's performance and keep it in line with the ICE 911 products.
Like you I’ve always had concerns about the putting the impressive off-the-line performance of BEVs into the hands of any driver, skilled or inexperienced, but no doubt now the environmental brigade have conquered vehicle emissions and noise they’ll be turning their attention to restricting cars’ performance. That abominable BRAKE organisation’s going to be campaigning to have someone with a red flag walking in front of every vehicle!
Jeff
Like you I’ve always had concerns about the putting the impressive off-the-line performance of BEVs into the hands of any driver, skilled or inexperienced, but no doubt now the environmental brigade have conquered vehicle emissions and noise they’ll be turning their attention to restricting cars’ performance. That abominable BRAKE organisation’s going to be campaigning to have someone with a red flag walking in front of every vehicle!
Jeff
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