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2018/04/30 17:08:53 (permalink)

CAT Driver Training

Hi All
 
i just wanted to post something that I believe could benefit members in getting even more from the great cars we all own.
 
i have done a fair bit of tuition, on track and road, over the years both with ex police instructors, Porsche Experience Silverstone (number of times) and various others a Bedford Autodrome, Thruxston, Brands, Hethal, and Millbrook.
 
Hiwever, I have recently done some 1 to 1 tuition in both my Golf R and latterly 991 GTS with Colin at CAT Driver Training at Millbrook and found it to be superb and can’t recommend them enough.
 
The facilities at Millbrook are truly exceptional and Colin has both an intrinsic understanding of the cars (particularly the 911) and some great training on how to optimise the drive of one of these truly special cars.
 
i would encourage anyone who is thinking about it to book now, it really is the best investment you will ever make.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/04/30 17:24:55 (permalink)
I went with a group from 911uk and Colin will give a discounted rate if you can get a 5-6 group together.

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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/06 08:18:37 (permalink)
Hello,
 
What would you say was so different to all the other training you’ve done? Was it mainly due to the location do you think, or notable differences to what you were taught by Colin?
 
Over the years I too have done all manner of driver training, from trusty (but dull) IAM, to a Don Palmer to two day PEC and in January I did the Porsche Ice Driving Experience in Finland (best three days in a car I’ve ever had). But I’m always up for learning more :)
 
Cheers,
 
—Mark
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/06 11:29:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Pokhara 2018/05/10 15:49:09
Hi, I would say there are a few factors for me that made the CAT training stand out:
- Colin is genuinely a really nice guy, there are no egos, he just has a huge amount of knowledge that he wants to pass on to help you enjoy the car more.
- Personally, I liked his engineering background and how he used this to explain the dynamics of the car better. 
- Sometimes these days can feel a bit generic, whereas Colin starts the day wanting to talk through specific objectives and checks back during the day on ether you are meeting them.
- I felt CAT have a real understanding and passion for Porsche, and partcicualry the 911 and star sessions were tailored to the cars unique dynamics, trail braking, single input steer, threshold braking, high speed stability and characteristics of the 911 etc were all really practical and infirmative (and fun).
 
i have no financial interest in whether any members use CAT, I just wanted to pass onto members my own experiences.
 
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/06 12:27:38 (permalink)
Great summary, thanks for taking the time Gareth!
 
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/06 16:06:32 (permalink)
I echo Gareth’s comments and there is also a thread on here from last year where similar thoughts were shared.
 
I feel the understanding you gain from the CAT instructors, both about how your car handles in various situations, and how your inputs can improve or detract from that, are very valuable.  I booked last year as I had not long had my car and wanted to get a really good feel for it.  I’m doing further training this coming week to serve as a refresher and to increase my knowledge.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/08 14:13:28 (permalink)
I've booked a day with Colin :)
 
Thanks Gareth, I quoted your original post as the inspiration for contacting them.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/08 20:03:10 (permalink)
Great stuff Mark, hope you enjoy the day
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/10 15:51:07 (permalink)
Please share your experience of the day.  I'm about to do some IAM stuff and would be interested to add the CAT training given the positive remarks already shared.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/11 10:02:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Pokhara 2018/05/12 15:25:04
Pokhara
Please share your experience of the day.  I'm about to do some IAM stuff and would be interested to add the CAT training given the positive remarks already shared.

 
Will do!
 
On the IAM stuff – I would say you'll probably get much the same stuff out of one of a CAT kind of day too (I even got it with an instructor at the PEC last summer). Plus some more beneficial stuff. 'Limit point' corner judgement and being sensitive to weight shifting are a couple of really key things that any quality instructor will tell you. You might find the rest of the IAM bits, umm 'stuffy'. (I did it years ago).
 
Cheers
 
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/23 15:49:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Pokhara 2018/05/25 12:27:11
Folks,
 
Yesterday I spent the day with Colin at CAT. The short story:
 
Best driver training I've ever had.
 
The longer story:
 
Back in the early 00s I had a TVR Tuscan, which as anyone who's owned a TVR will tell you, are a knife edge. So I learned to drive it properly. As mentioned earlier in this thread, over the years I've had loads of driver training, done track days, time on ice, etc etc. I like to think (as we all do!) that "I can drive". I wouldn't put myself as 'a great driver' (ha!) but I would say I'm 'above average'. But, I'm also very open minded to learning new things, and am of the opinion that I can always learn something new from training.
 
I booked a bespoke day with Colin, opting for the performance course in the morning, in my own C2S, and a spot of drifting in their Caterham for the afternoon. As with Gareth's experience, we started the morning over a cuppa with a chat about what I wanted to achieve. I told Colin that I'm doing four track days this year in the 911 and that I'd like to be able to drive it quickly, but be able to minimise mistakes (like one I made at Silverstone in the pouring rain last November where I wasn't quick enough to collect up the back end stepping out at Abbey and promptly went grass mowing).
 
The morning then proceeded with some on limit braking, a bit of steering testing, some work on the high speed bowl (I've driven quickly in the past – over 165mph on derestricted German autobahns – but nothing prepares you for doing 135mph on the upper lane of the Millbrook bowl. Probably the scariest thing I've ever done in a car) and finally knitting it all together on the handling circuit (which is tight!).
 
Within the first ten minutes of chatting with Colin over the tea I'd learned something new! (I did not know the 911 aerodynamics over circa-120mph shifted the pressure point more forward of the car centre, which is unlike many other cars but makes total sense for weight balance. You get to experience this fact happening in real time on the bowl). I learned the single most useful braking thing nobody has ever told me before, amazingly, and instantly perfected my on-limit braking – both right and left footed. By the final lap of the handling circuit I'd got the tyres 'chirping' in the bends – a sure sign I was on the grip limit and quite a buzz to both find and recognise.
 
I think what made Colin's training so much better than all others I've had over the years was the 'top 1%'. That magical detail which gets the very best out of a situation. It's his explanation of why things are the way they are that permitted me – with a bit of an engineering brain anyway – to fully understand what the car was doing and how to use that information whilst driving. And from our conversations throughout the day it's evident that Colin will totally tune what he tells clients based on their requirements (he knows A LOT and could happily blow your brains out with detail if you so desire. Or, he can tell you enough to make it useful without saturating you. In other words, his people skills are top notch).
 
I probably don't need to say much about drifting a Caterham. Besides the fact I couldn't stop grinning.
 
It's also worth going just to experience Millbrook. What a location. It's so secretive you will have covers put over your mobile phone cameras – both front and back – at the entrance gate! It's amazing what you see there. As a petrolhead I'd go so far as to say the place is actually exciting. I asked if we could have a drive over the mountain loop at the end of the day – that's worth doing because so many films and TV programs have been over it, it's quite fun to see for real.
 
I really don't think anyone would ever regret spending time and money with Colin. If you want to get the most enjoyment possible out of your car – and I've come to recognise even the lowly Carrera has capabilities way past my skills – he'll arm you with the best skills you can get.
 
--Mark
 
 
 
 
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/24 13:15:55 (permalink)
Enjoyed your write up Mark and description of what you gained from the experience.  I've done several track days and have always thought I would benefit (everyday is a school day) from a good tutor.  I've never been to Millbrook so what better place to gain some expert tuition.
Do you have a specific contact for Colin at CAT ?  

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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/24 21:03:27 (permalink)
Hello,
 
You can find all the info you need, including phone number, on their website …
 
https://catdrivertraining.co.uk
 
Cheers!
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/24 21:58:36 (permalink)
Great write up Mark, glad you got as much out of the day as I did. 
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/25 12:27:45 (permalink)
Echo what the others have said Mark, great write up.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/25 13:01:20 (permalink)
"Hello,
You can find all the info you need, including phone number, on their website …
https://catdrivertraining.co.uk
Cheers!"
 
 
 
Thanks
post edited by polar964 - 2018/05/25 13:03:19

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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/25 14:39:32 (permalink)
Excellent summation, thanks for taking the time to write it up. Having just got back from the IoM where the car was obviously so much more capable than the driver, I now want to do some more training myself and this sounds like a good one to do. 

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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/05/28 20:51:11 (permalink)
Hi,I went on a course with 3 others in Porsches + 2 in 350Zs. a week ago. We all had a great time and I certainly learnt a lot.Can't recommend enough. Mike.
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/07/25 12:36:45 (permalink)
Any PCGB discount on the cards?
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Re: CAT Driver Training 2018/07/25 12:46:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Craiglm68 2018/07/25 14:41:43
If you get a group together Jo will give a discount providing all pre-paid.

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