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rhys.williams007@yahoo.co.uk

rhys.williams007@yahoo.co.uk

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Only to canvass your worthwhile opinion.

I have a 991.1 4s with 50k on the clock, good spec but no sunroof, which I want to keep a car for the foreseeable

Is it worth spending another £25k (at the moment) to buy a 991.2 GTS with a sunroof? I’d rather a 4GTS but that’s another £5k plus.

concerned about;

1. Lack of exhaust note
2. is the power upgrade worth it
3. is the upgrade interior worth it
4. should I hold my 991.1 4s as values will remain ok (not in it for value increase as I drive all my cars)

Value your opinion

many thanks

Rhys

 
I have a 991.2 4 GTS and I think it is a fantastic drive. The car sticks to the road like it is on rails and i would agree with the comment on the rear wheel steering.


On the power, I would not want anything quicker for use on the roads and enjoy the 450bhp. My car has the Alcantara interior and feels very well put together, but I do not have first hand experience of a 991.1 to compare.


btw I have the manual and not PDK.
 
I would not discount a 991.1 GTS. Having test driven a 992S I prefer my GTS (2 wheel drive, manual) hands down. You can still find some with lowish mileage. Its also a rarer car anyway and tends to hold its value better. Manuals are super rare now.

As for 4 wheel drive. There seems to be a lot of focus on 4 wheel drive / steer for grip etc. I have tracked my GTS and done the CAT Academy at Millbrook. Trust me, you are not going to find grip an issue. If you can get the back to step out it will be because of a monumental driving error or deliberate. Steering is as much about driving it correctly as anything else. I am not saying 4 wheel steer is not an advantage, just its not essential and is just something else to maintain. Depends how fast you want to go, but throwing the poor P Zeros in th ebin at the earliest opportunity and getting some Pilot Sports will transform it I assure you.

Alcantara interior is outstanding. A real feeling of quality. The seat cushions also don't seem to show wear like leather. I do 1000mls a month in my car and the only wear is on the edge of the seat where you slide past it getting in.

When I test drove the 992 I thought that while the engine had a lot of low down grunt, it was pretty dull sound wise. Sounded OK but nothing more. The GTS NA engine with its sound tweaks is an event. You have to rev it a bit more if you want to really move on but from 4000rpm onward the noise is addictive.
 
Thanks for your detailed feedback. Would consider a GTS .1. cheaper than the 4, but I do like the rear light strip on the 4! Won’t be getting a 992 anytime soon, way too expensive for the value of the car
 
595triple said:
I would not discount a 991.1 GTS. Having test driven a 992S I prefer my GTS (2 wheel drive, manual) hands down. You can still find some with lowish mileage. Its also a rarer car anyway and tends to hold its value better. Manuals are super rare now.

As for 4 wheel drive. There seems to be a lot of focus on 4 wheel drive / steer for grip etc. I have tracked my GTS and done the CAT Academy at Millbrook. Trust me, you are not going to find grip an issue. If you can get the back to step out it will be because of a monumental driving error or deliberate. Steering is as much about driving it correctly as anything else. I am not saying 4 wheel steer is not an advantage, just its not essential and is just something else to maintain. Depends how fast you want to go, but throwing the poor P Zeros in th ebin at the earliest opportunity and getting some Pilot Sports will transform it I assure you.
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hi Rupert. Which tyre sizes are you running? I’ve not been able to source PS4s for my 991.1 C4S; its as if Michelin have ceased producing the standard size. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places? meanwhile Pirelli seem to have updated their PZero. Struggling to know what to do?

mike
 
Hi Mike,

My GTS wheels run a 245/35R20 upfront and 305/30R20 at the rear. I am actually running Cup2's. They are quieter than the P-Zeros that were on it. The ride is also smoother and as mentioned, the steering transformed. I had the opportunity to drive another GTS identical to mine apart from being a PDK when I still had the P-Zeros. Tyre age was the same and it felt about the same, perhaps slightly smoother ride than mine. Swapping to the Michelin's though was night and day.

When I was looking for tyres I don't recall the 4S being unavailable. Having said that, having looked at pricing for the Cup2's, I asked at my local Kwik-Fit and they came up with a better price than was offered online (anywhere I could find). When they checked stock online it was only showing fronts. The guy there was wise to this and called Michelin to check what the real story was. They also had rears. Apparently they deliberately keep stock back to supply OPC's unless you ask.
 
595triple said:
Hi Mike,

My GTS wheels run a 245/35R20 upfront and 305/30R20 at the rear. I am actually running Cup2's. They are quieter than the P-Zeros that were on it. The ride is also smoother and as mentioned, the steering transformed. I had the opportunity to drive another GTS identical to mine apart from being a PDK when I still had the P-Zeros. Tyre age was the same and it felt about the same, perhaps slightly smoother ride than mine. Swapping to the Michelin's though was night and day.

When I was looking for tyres I don't recall the 4S being unavailable. Having said that, having looked at pricing for the Cup2's, I asked at my local Kwik-Fit and they came up with a better price than was offered online (anywhere I could find). When they checked stock online it was only showing fronts. The guy there was wise to this and called Michelin to check what the real story was. They also had rears. Apparently they deliberately keep stock back to supply OPC's unless you ask.
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thanks. Useful tip..????
 
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