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Tyre pressures

keithn

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No - higher pressure higher speed. Check the handbook for an explanation of Comfort Pressure and the lower pressures. Operate TPM and make sure Comfort Pressure is unchecked (and inflate tyres to the higher/normal pressures). Then, to double check, after driving the car to get new TPM readings, check the deviation. Should be +/-1 or 0. Have a good trip.

 
Hi

I need some advice regarding correct tyre pressures for my 2107 991 Turbo S for high speed driving on the German Autobahns in June this year, that is speeds up to 200mph!

The sicker on the drivers door shows the following:

1 person with 1 Small case 2.4 bar front and 3.0 bar rear
2 persons with 1 large case 2.6 bar front and 3.3 bar rear

under this it shows 0 - 160 mph

1 person with 1 small case 2.2 bar front and 2.5 bar rear
2 persons with 1 large case 2.3 bar front and 2.8 bar rear

Am I correct in thinking that the faster I drive the lower the tyre pressures need to be?
regards
Paul
 
Hi paul

many on here get their tyres filled with nitrogen to minimise the pressure fluctuations with higher temperature associated with faster driving .

generally faster/hotter raises the tyre pressure

nitrogen fill lessens that effect

most decent tyre outfits will oblige you

looking forward to the Italian trip myself!!

dylan

 
What a load of rubbish just drive the thing you won t be doing 200 mph for very long more like 135 mph average .

 
Thanks Mossman for you less than useful advice.

You have obviously never driven a 911 Turbo S at speed on German Autobahns.

All I was looking for was some practical sensible advice as to the correct tyre pressures to use.

Regards

paul

 
ref some of the comments - I'm a bit puzzled as the club's track9 publication advised to reduce pressure a few psi for track driving - which surely has to be equivalent to your autobahn needs? but someone on this thread said to raise it?

totally agree about nitrogen fills - as my tyres warm up (in warmer weather) the pressure increases, then on a colder day the pressure drops - as much as 2psi in this variable weather lately. so I don't get why driving fast (ie hot) would be improved by higher pressures which are already going to be higher - hence the track9 comment about lowering them for sustained high load driving.

am I missing the point somewhere?

 
Hi, from my track day experiences, initially I wasn’t taking enough notice of tyre pressures when taking part on track days, however towards the end of my first track day I was starting to get a bit frustrated at how quickly the tyres seemed to be going off and a bit alarmed at the wear rate. To qualify I do tend to push on a bit as I used to campaign a rally car and quite happy to lean on the car. I didn’t tend to take much notice of tyre pressures when competing as the stages were short so less chance of heat build up, circuit work is completely different though. The heat in the tyres builds up quite quickly therefor the pressures rises. At higher pressures the tyres over-inflate and end up a bit balloon shaped, you end up riding on the centre section of the tyre which in turn becomes overworked and wears at an alarming rate. You also have a smaller contact patch which again reduces grip.

When the pressure is lowered (as much as 5-6 psi) as the tyre heats up you end up at the right pressures and the optimum contact patch equalling higher grip levels. I was astonished at the difference You go out on a session, first couple of laps are a bit squidgy but after that the grip level comes up & is then maintained without the tyre going off.

I’m not quite sure as to how this would work out on autobahns, as for all the tyres will be working at high speed, they won’t be experiencing the same corner loadings on track work, which will be the main reason for the rise in tyre pressure.

Sorry this won’t have helped your autobahn dilemma, however hopefully it will have helped explain what’s going on with tyre pressures on track days

All the best

Steve

 
richardfleming said:
ref some of the comments - I'm a bit puzzled as the club's track9 publication advised to reduce pressure a few psi for track driving - which surely has to be equivalent to your autobahn needs? but someone on this thread said to raise it? ... which is correct as the two driving scenarios are completely different. The increased `autobahn` pressure supports the tyre for it`s high speed requirements / load. On track the load on the tyre is generated `more` by the cornering / braking extremes that the road tyre is not completely designed for - the `soft` construction does not support maintaining the contact patch hence the tyre overheats, reducing grip. Running lower cold / starting pressures helps accommodate / offset this effect.

totally agree about nitrogen fills - as my tyres warm up (in warmer weather) the pressure increases, then on a colder day the pressure drops - as much as 2psi in this variable weather lately. so I don't get why driving fast (ie hot) would be improved by higher pressures which are already going to be higher - hence the track9 comment about lowering them for sustained high load driving.

am I missing the point somewhere?

EDIT ... written prior to the two posts above.



 
The normal tyres pressures are fine for autobahn work as it will depend on road surface , temperature etc and the normal tyre pressure are set by the manufacturer of the tyres so it will also depend on what make of tyre brand,grade is fitted to the car , and seriously you are not going to be doing 200 mph .

the turbo S has sport & sport plus in this mode the front & rear spoilers become active and this puts down force which will also generate heat .

yes for track days you want the tyre to squish to increase the contact patch so tyre pressure need to be lowered but not for high speed work .

So normal tyre pressure are fine for Autobahn driving ......

watch out for mr plod the Germans also drive around in unmarked cars .......

and yes yes I have driven Turbos abroad as I had a few .........

 
Thanks for all your feedback. I have had the tyres nitrogen filled to Porsche recommended pressures, so all set for the Autobahn.

Speed with depend on weather conditions and how busy the roads are.

regards

Paul

 

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