Why has this not sold

[aporschefan]

IIRC, this has been on the market for sometime. Not sure if there have been any price drops since the original advert.

Most of the major issues (suspension, sills, head gasket, water pump, fuel lines etc) have been addressed.

I don't know the seller or the car in any way, but I would be considering this if I was in the market for a turbo. Or am I missing something?

 

[andrew_churcher]

Is there a link?

 

[andrew_churcher]

Am sure there is a thread on this car here already. Was up for £11.5k in June. Nice article below on it. I love it but couldn't agree a price at the time (basically very close to the asking price now) so bought Edds car instead. It's not original but seems well cared for. Just had service and other work at Jaz and as 12mth MOT. I would be all over it if I was after a turbo.

http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-944-silver-rose-turbo-for-sale-uk

 

[Hairyarse]

The market seems very slow for 944's - mine took 4-5 months to shift! I don't think there's anything wrong with the car, it looks sorted, I just think unless you want to drop your pants on the price they just don't sell quick, unless you're at the lower end of the price range as someone would take a punt on a turbo for a couple of grand

 

[edh]

I've driven this car recently. It goes very well and has been well cared for. The paintwork is excellent. I've always liked silver rose cars. Richard is a very nice chap. So why didn't I buy it?

....I came away without "wanting" it. I would have preferred it to be a bit more "stealthy"

If I'd wanted a modified turbo I'd have been more keen, (ive had one of those) but I ended up not liking the loud exhaust, dump valve noise and the lack of aircon. They are all reasonably easy to change, but I didn't feel I could spend lots of effort and extra money on a fifth car. There were also a few squeaks & rattles that I think were mainly a result of the car not getting a lot of use just recently.

I think it's great value if you want a modified turbo - irrespective of whether you wanted a turbo s.

If you want a silver rose you could make this really really nice with a bit of work.

 

[andrew_churcher]

Edh - out of interest which car do you prefer on track - turbo or s2? .....

 

[edh]

S2 - lighter and n/a for me...

 

[aporschefan]

So the feeling is it's now at a price which people feel may be fair. Or not far off the mark for what someone may be willing to pay.

There is plenty of talk on this site about prices rising for late, well sorted cars 944s. (Not sure if that true for turbo's only or S2's also?) If this car is as good as the owner is suggesting, and assuming prices are rising, I guess the number of people willing to buy a 944 is very limited, for whatever reason.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to talk down prices of our cars. I wish the opposite to be true, especially as I've recently spent a fortune on mine.

 

[andrew_churcher]

Unless you are really after a 944 many will get distracted by either a Boxster or a 996 for same money or just a bit more. E46m3/350z/r32 gtr are also around this price range. Not saying these are better or worse but £8.5k - £11k gets you a lot of car these days.....especially when you are looking outside the pork range.

 

[JagdHamster]

£8500 seems perfectly reasonable to me. Not sure what the mileage is, though

I've always felt Silver Roses appeal mainly to those who like maximum originality, rather than modders.

Russ

 

[simkin911]

I too like the look of this car. From memory on a previous thread, I had the impression that the previous SH was sparse - noting it had been owned by a mechanic. Not sure how accurate this is. If accurate then for £8500 on a potentially collectible car perhaps folk want a good overall SH plus recent expenditure?

Like I say, it looks like a nice car and EDH has also driven it and it seems to drive like it looks. Hopefully the seller will get the right buyer soon.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I've always felt Silver Roses appeal mainly to those who like maximum originality, rather than modders.

That was my point when it was first on the market. Paying that much for a silver rose isn't an issue, the mods and the mileage are.

I think that most people buying it as a collector's car, probably sticking it in a garage and taking out once a year, would be prepared to pay a bit more for a low miles, totally original example. This one sits between two camps: not exactly what a collector would want, but almost too good for a regular turbo.I guess it'll either sell better if returned to original, or sell for a bit less than the original asking price as is.

It does look like an exceptional 944.

 

[scam75]

I would jump at it for 8.5k if I was in the market. It's a turbo s and has the mods I would do anyway but I think buyers like me are thin on the ground and most probably already have their own car and have it the way they want it. If I did buy it though that hideous comfort seated interior would be replaced by burgundy full leather sports seats. Then it would look........well exactly like mine!! I think I nailed my point there!!

Stuart

 

[ChasR]

Market conditions force this one IMO. Boxsters are now absurdly cheap (with 996s going the same way). If I am honest though 944 prices seem to be all over the shop. It is an awkward one to shift due the reasons mentioned by Paul as well about the car itself. It does not help that there seem to be quite a few 944Ts coming up for sale as Simon (944 Man) pointed out in another thread, generally after owners owning them for a short period of time.

It is a stunning car, and I would be tempted to buy it if I did not own mine. OTOH whilst DaveL's has many of the same mods he cannot seem to shift at IMO a bargainous £6k! Christ, I had people offering me a shade under £5k for my car when it was out on market (I appreciate mine is not quite as perfect as the Silver Rose, but it goes to show...).

I was chatting to one owner who saw Andy's car, which he considered to be overpriced and went and bought another car with 'work' done to it. Yet he has faced different issues to what Andy's car has in addition to other niggling electrical issues. That's before I get to the car only boosting tops at 0.2Bar before it went to a specialist to have a few things rectified.

In a nutshell, people want a bargain, and unless you have owned one of these cars and/or tried others you will always be tempted by cheaper cars, despite them not having the same level of maintenance (yet appearing to be fine etc.).

If you wish to talk about cheap Sports cars, look at Mazda RX8s! They are far cheaper than their rivals (Audi TTs, Nissan 350Zs etc.) Granted they have their issues but they are still significantly cheaper than most things out there at the moment.

Saying the above though, the 968 does seem to be the exception to the rule...

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I've always felt Silver Roses appeal mainly to those who like maximum originality, rather than modders.

That was my point when it was first on the market. Paying that much for a silver rose isn't an issue, the mods and the mileage are.

I think that most people buying it as a collector's car, probably sticking it in a garage and taking out once a year, would be prepared to pay a bit more for a low miles, totally original example. This one sits between two camps: not exactly what a collector would want, but almost too good for a regular turbo.I guess it'll either sell better if returned to original, or sell for a bit less than the original asking price as is.

It does look like an exceptional 944.

I've said this before and I agree with Paul. If you want a modded 944 Turbo there are plenty to choose from. If you want a SR I presume like me most people want it low mileage, standard and a Comprehensive service history. Also the Air Con needs fixed before it is sold, rather than saying it will cost £xxx to fix.

 

[DC911SC]

ORIGINAL: ChasR

If you wish to talk about cheap Sports cars, look at Mazda RX8s! They are far cheaper than their rivals (Audi TTs, Nissan 350Zs etc.) Granted they have their issues but they are still significantly cheaper than most things out there at the moment.

I used to think that about RX8s (how can a sports car with suicide doors go for so little) but having now seen a rotary engine in bits and watch someone suffer trying to fix it and get normal compression, dont even think about it, also they rust quicker than 944s!