Which wax?

[andy watson]

I have been using Zymol wax, well all the range, for 10 years and I now need to buy some new wax
I have read a lot of good things about Dodo Juice and was thinking of giving it a try, the Zymol wax was the Carbon and The Dodo Juice would be the Purple.

Would be interested on your thoughts?

 

[j4mou]

Autoglym hd wax £32 best money I've ever spent, goes on easily and comes of just as easy.

 

[supersport]

I have been using Swissvax for 7 years and have almost decided to go the same way as you. The bodyshop that restored my 911 used Dodo Juice and it looked amazing, just not sure which one. It is also considerably cheaper than the current £120 per pot that Swissvax want.

 

[Eldavo]

A good friend runs a detailing business and applied Permanon on my daily hack. I've since bought a bottle of Permanon Platinum and have applied it to the 944 this week. Will post the pics tomorrow as am on iPhone now.

Results are amazing! AND - it's only about £20 a bottle from Nanotech SST!

 

[rich mich]

i was using swissvax on my boxster up until 4 years ago about 95 pound a pot, i changed to dodo juice hard wax about 4 years ago(35 pound a pot) and still use it today. you can get about 20-25 coats off one pot, they also do soft waxes.

 

[Copperman05]

You cant go wrong with any of the Dodo range and Purple Haze is as good as most waxes out there. Autoglym HD is another great wax, easily obtainable from Hellfrauds and great VFM. My favourite wax is Zymol Glasur which if you forget all the Porsche marketing BS its still a great wax and one of the few Ive used that keeps its looks after several washes, not cheap though.

If you want something different try one of the excellent Victoria Waxes, I just bought the Collectors wax but the Concours is the one everyone raves about on Detailing World, also pretty cheap and available in small tubs to try out for less than £20...

Edd

 

[944 man]

Is there really much of an improvement to be seen if you venture above Autoglym/Meguiars money?

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

Is there really much of an improvement to be seen if you venture above Autoglym/Meguiars money?

Not really Simon, but one thing the Zymol, Swissvax waxes do is they feel special, usually smell very nice, go on very smoothly like butter, remove very easily, come in great packaging, etc. When people use them they feel like they are using something special on there cars. They are also very good waxes too mind with durability to match.

Obviously there's no point in putting any half decent wax on your paint unless its properly prep'd, polished and decent enough to show off a good wax. If you just want to have a great finish and decent durability (less frequent re-application) any one of the waxes mentioned above would be good enough and wont break the bank either. After a while you might like something a bit more fancy and this to me is where the Zymol/Swissvax come in.


Edd

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: andy watson

I have been using Zymol wax, well all the range, for 10 years and I now need to buy some new wax
I have read a lot of good things about Dodo Juice and was thinking of giving it a try, the Zymol wax was the Carbon and The Dodo Juice would be the Purple.

Would be interested on your thoughts?

When Zymol was first introduced to the market it was as Least four times as expensive as anything else.[:-]
Clever marketing ploy - was it four times as good - I dont think so!

Many years ago I won a National concours event sponsored by Zymol. You can guess the prizes.

When the MD of Zymol presented me the Trophy he insisted my car should appear in the Advertisements they were running.

After a long conversation with the MD.

I Refused - why - well he didnt believe me when I told him my car was cleaned with Eagle Wax purchased in Wal Mart in America. He asked why I purchased Eagle Wax - well because its on offer and costs a fraction of your product.

Red faces all around - but not mine - just his, about as bright as my GurardsRed Super Sport.[]

 

[Dave928]

I use poorboys products. Cheap enough to do the job with a good finish. I can't stand autogylm. I have used dodo juice and although a good product prefer the poorboys.

 

[Joss Walker]

I think this topic is a real personal taste question, I have used Swissvax for three years now and think it is amazing, one application easily lasts 8 months or so and I think that the tub will last forever. However i am sure that it will be the last one I buy as it is a horrendous price right now. My brother-in-law is always trying new things and finding the latest holy grail but it keeps him happy.

The only thing I agree with is that the cheaper waxes (standard Autoglym) have fillers in them (I think that is what all the white residue is that you need to buff away) and the more expensive polishes on a well prepared car will give a much better shine. Also the carnauba waxes tend to make the water bead whereas the synthetic waxes make the water sheet and run off.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: Joss Walker


The only thing I agree with is that the cheaper waxes (standard Autoglym) have fillers in them (I think that is what all the white residue is that you need to buff away)

On a visit to the Autoglym factory I asked the Question - 'Does the ingredient vary from country to country in manufacture'
No was the answer. Next question - 'I thought due to sunrays in Middle east and snow and cold in Alska I thought you content of ingredients may have varied to cope with different climates' No answer but the sales guy showing us around glared at me.

Your residue I believe to be fine chalk - also used in rubbing compounds.[]

 

[zcacogp]

Crumbs -a thread on PCGB about waxes on 944's! I never thought I'd see the day ...

The underlying theme is that most of what you get with 'posh waxes' is marketing BS - as Edd and John both said. And it's a long, slippery slope down to the point where you are putting 50 layers of distilled-from-the-snot-of-nepalese-virgins ponce-wax on your vauxhall astra 'because that's more than anyone else has ever put on their car. Ever. Innit'

I'll admit to using Bilt Hamber products, very occasionally. They are excellent, not expensive and protect paintwork for a very, very long time. I'll also draw people's attention to Ferry Porsche's view on car cleaning and 'detailing' (as it's all the rage to call it now); apparently he washed bird poo off the windscreen only when it obscured vision - to do otherwise was to neglect the fact that porsches are made for driving, not for posing in.


Oli.

 

[supersport]

I bought my Swissvax Zuffenhausen 7 years ago when it was still Swissol and £90 a tub and I think it is the dog's danglies! It is super easy to apply and buff off leaving no residue or dust and it just makes the car look so smooth and gorgeous, see pic below. I did the daily, which lives outside, with it 8 months ago when simply washed and dried off it still looks the nuts, although it doesn't bead so well now. I have done my three cars with it and numerous others so has lasted well.

My only reason for possibly not buying another tub, although I expect a couple more years out of it, is that it is now £120 a pot and is considerably softer than it used to be and I don't believe it will last as long, it also looks like many of the other products in the range are getting quite pricy too.

 

[944Scott]

ORIGINAL: bigdavec

I use poorboys products. Cheap enough to do the job with a good finish. I can't stand autogylm. I have used dodo juice and although a good product prefer the poorboys.

Is it the blue one that smells like bubble gum, makes me hungry when I polish the car lol.

 

[nick9one1]

I've used a few products over the years and always end up coming back to autoglym Super Resin Polish / Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection. This combination seems to give a fantastic shine.

Its probably worth mentioning polish and wax are different.

Polish is mildy abrasive, which removes swirls and imperfections and allows the surface to shine.
Wax is a final coating that gives a top coat shine.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

Wax is only as good as the prep work before hand. It does not matter if you pay £20 or £200 per pot its useless unless your paintwork has been pre cleansed to the best it can be for the wax to adhere too .Depending on the paintworks needs there many processes claying, pre clense, polishing, glazing,sealants to name a few before even concidering applying you carnuba wax. As a pro detailer myself i have used many on the market. Remember waxes are a sealant your shine will come from prep work.
Yes some are more hardy than others.
As said theres a fair few on the market, use which ever one works for you and your budget.If your happy [] stay with it if not try another when its time to renew.
Cliff.

 

[supersport]

Cliff, what is the difference between a wax and a glaze and why would you use one rather than the other?

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

You would use a glaze before a wax.( Not always necessary to glaze but for that extra depth and shine sometimes worth the extra work in some cases)
Well at least I would top off with a Wax for protection and you can layer another wax coat once it has cured or a refresh wax if under 3 months.
Thats my preference.

 

[supersport]

Ok Ta, personally that does seem like a step too far given the results you can get from wax alone with good prep.