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Which Cayman would you get for £17k?

Dylan1 said:
Auto trader have a 2009 cayman 987 S gen 2 38000 miles for £17950 in Scotland privately

looks great I’d bite his arm off if I was you!!

Unfortunately it's a gen 1! I did think it was a gen 2 at first, it does look lovely!

Good to know RE the clutch, however it's not as expensive as I thought to replace so not as big a deal! :)

Also, how many stamps should I be expecting in the service history for an 09 car, with lets say 60,000 on the clock

It seems that they have a 2 year/20,000 mile service interval (assuming whichever comes sooner) so should I be looking for 5 stamps? (with ongoing oil changes annually!). Assuming it's a minor/major/minor/major schedule?

I'm very tempted by a 2010 plate with 92,000 miles and great service history, at £13k. It would leave some cash free to get a Hayward & Scott exhaust mod and for any future work. I would love to hear any other opinions on this option!

Thanks!



 
Joe,

There's a minor/major 2-year/20,000 mile service interval on the Gen2 - and as far as I know on the Gen1 too - with no requirement for an annual oil change. A brake fluid change is also specified every 2-years, with other "extras" such as plugs, V-belt and air clearer replacement recommended at other intervals.

As I said in a previous post, there shouldn't be a problem with a high-mileage car if it's been serviced regularly and well cared-for, so should definitely be worth a look. Can't help re the H&S exhaust I'm afraid but you'd need to satisfy yourself that it meets your requirements before purchasing - loud/droning exhausts can become tiresome on longer journeys unless they're switchable like the PSE.

Good luck with your quest.!

Jeff

 
Motorhead said:
Joe,

There's a minor/major 2-year/20,000 mile service interval on the Gen2 - and as far as I know on the Gen1 too - with no requirement for an annual oil change. A brake fluid change is also specified every 2-years, with other "extras" such as plugs, V-belt and air clearer replacement recommended at other intervals.

As I said in a previous post, there shouldn't be a problem with a high-mileage car if it's been serviced regularly and well cared-for, so should definitely be worth a look. Can't help re the H&S exhaust I'm afraid but you'd need to satisfy yourself that it meets your requirements before purchasing - loud/droning exhausts can become tiresome on longer journeys unless they're switchable like the PSE.

Good luck with your quest.!

Jeff

The recommendation I’ve had is to change the oil and filter every year, especially when you get to the age of car we are talking about. But that’s not a big expense in the grand scheme of things.

 
I put down a deposit for a 2010 base model today!

It's higher mileage than I initially intended to go for and doesn't really have any extras, however including a 3 year warranty it was still a good price and has a very comprehensive service history. It'll be ready to pick up next week- just in time for a week in the lake district! [:D] I'm sure it will need a bit of money spent on it over the next few years but it's no problem with the saving compared to what I was planning to spend.

Theres a few bits I'll get to work on straight away... hazy lights to sand/polish and protect. Some wear on the centre console, which I'm researching now but may look at vinyl wrapping. I'm a bit of a tinkerer so am quite looking forward to having a few bits and pieces to work on!

I've also ordered a RockBros suction cup rack for the mountainbikes for anyone interested. I was a little unsure about it but it seems to get good reviews, I'll post up a review once I've used it for a few months for others who are in the same "can I trust it?!" boat as me!

Many thanks all for the help, I'm looking forwards to getting on the road!

Cheers

Joe

 
Hi all,

I thought I'd provide and update, mostly for anyone in a similar position to me who see's this thread in the future.

I've had a the cayman for a few weeks now, including a weeks holiday in the Lake District. I bought a 987.2 with 90k miles on the clock for £13k (plus another £1k on a warranty). It's got a great service history and seems mechanically sound. Judging by the number of stone chips on the front it's had lots of motorway use, so easy miles (and luckily these only seem to be on the bumper rather than bonnet and other panels). Not many extras, but I'm not too fussed about that- at the moment just driving it is fun enough without needing anything else to think about!

Overall I'm very happy with the car! It's great fun to drive, comfortable on the motorway, plenty fast enough (I'm sure if I had driven an S I'd want the extra power, but I'm happy with the 2.9 for now... maybe next time!), gives decent economy, and even the OH enjoys driving it (I thought she would be a bit scared having only ever driven a 1.2 Polo before!) [:D] It was great fun on the mountain passes in the Lakes! It seemed more comfortable at speed on the windy roads than a friend did in his Z4 behind.

I'm using it as a social/weekend car. Mostly for mountainbiking days or weekends (I bought Rockbros suction cup mounts, which have been flawless even with a 6+ hour drive to the Lake District) and for weekends away with my OH (normally Wales, the Peaks, Lakes... anywhere with mountains as we do a lot of hiking). We fitted everything in for a week in the Lakes for the two of us, including a duvet and airbed, with the bike on top. The storage space inside was one thing I was worried about, but am pleasantly surprised with. It took a bit of smart packing, but there's plenty of space! I averaged 33mpg at 70mph with the bike on top giving some extra drag.

It's due a major service next year, and I believe is on it's first clutch so I've put an extra £1,000 aside to go toward those costs (no slipping on the clutch at the moment though). I'm also going to get a bumper respray (approx £500) as this is the only thing that lets the car down cosmetically. So all in all, with a clutch replacement, major service and bumper respray I'm looking at a car thats nearly immaculate (for now, I imagine at this mileage suspension components might start to show signs of wear, but I'm so expert so we'll see) for a <£15k (plus warranty) which I'm happy with.

So far I've restored the headlights (will do the rears this weekend as they're quite hazy), installed LED bulbs, cleared the rads at the front and installed mesh, restitched a small part of the steering wheel which was coming unthreaded (actually a very easy job), installed an Aux lead in the CDR30 unit, desnorked (although I can't really tell any difference!). I'll be painting the rotor hubs and calipers soon, and the centre console inside, and getting the engine cover off just to have a look and check the air filter.

Two things that I want to improve are:

- gearbox feel

- exhaust note

- stereo (possibly, I might not bother!)

Like lots of others I think the exhaust just needs a bit more bark high in the revs. I'm looking at a Carnewal mod or Hayward and Scott bypass.

The gearbox is one thing I'm a little disappointed with. There is a lot of play on the gear level, and gear changes feel a bit vague (my previous Honda Civic had much crisper gear shifts) especially compared to a lower mileage cayman I test drive. I didn't notice on the test drive (so many things to be thinking about!)

I've got the green calibration bracket so I can reset the cables to the correct tension which I'm hoping to try tomorrow night. It seems that due to a lot of the lever mechanism being plastic, there is a lot of wear and thus play- I'm looking at getting some sheet metal shim stock to take up some of this play, as others have. Hopefully these will give enough of a difference, else I'll be looking at a few hundred £ on a new shifter mechanism (and possibly some numeric cables further down the line).

Heres a picture just down the road from Buttermere!

 
Thanks for the update, really useful info!

Funnily enough the 2 issues that you mention (a subdued exhaust note and gear change feel) are the exact same that I had when I bought my 2.7 987 last year, having previously owned a 350Z. I sorted the first with a Carnewal GT exhaust upgrade in January - absolutely amazing mod - transforms the sound of the engine (almost race car like now), and I defo recommend combining it with a weekend trip to Ghent to get it fitted by Gert himself! The latter I hope to improve with the OEM short shift kit which I recently purchased from OPC Portsmouth (£250ish with club discount), and plan to fit in the very near future. I'm told to get that 'rifle bolt' action you may need upgraded cables (Numeric) but my main issue was with the length of throw so hoping the SSK will improve things!

 
Joe,

Good to hear that you're pleased with your (high mileage) purchase. As you say, the Cayman's a surprisingly practical car with its two "boots".

I'm not sure what you hoped to gain from the de-snork - a pointless exercise I think - and I reckon that the Carnewal route is probably the most cost-effective route to take for an improved exhaust note without introducing the dreaded drone.

Having driven a number of Civic Type-Rs I have to say that because of its long cable runs the Cayman's gearshift quality is never going to approach the rifle-bolt action of that car's gearshift, especially in your high mileage car, although adjustment may help. I quite like the longer throw action of the standard gearshift which suits my driving style, but the short-shift fitment has its proponents.

If you're repainting the very vulnerable front PU you may want to consider PPF to protect your expensive paint-job.!

Good luck with your work-in-progress - keep us posted. Why not join the Club and get the numerous benefits which come with membership?

Jeff

 
Let us know how the SSK goes Ben... I've not found the throw too long myself but am still getting used to the car really!

Jeff, I hoped the desnork would give a little more intake noise, but having not noticed any difference I'll just switch it back to normal.

Adjustment has made the gear changes a little nicer, my next step will either be some new bushings and shim the existing plastic gearchange mechanism or a new lever mechanism alltogether.

And yes, protective film will be going on after the respray!

I'll take a look into membership [:)]

Thanks, Joe

 
I have a 2.9 Gen 2 and love the OEM short shift. It can be a bit stiff for 1st when cold but very liveable. Being the 2.9 I think you have to work the gearbox more anyway.

 
Joe,

You may want to take a look at a couple of gearshift products which are available from Function-First:

[link]http://www.function-first.com/products/987[/url]

Rather expensive for what you're getting..!

Jeff

 

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