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SUSIT

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Couple of mechanic mates are telling me local Tesco fuel causing problems with enginemanagment systems in a number of modern cars, mercs and renault being the most common affected.

Filled up with fuel today and five miles later my 44 is running like a bag of nails, added some shell stuff and its back to normal

so any of you had similar experiance?
 
Nearly always use Tesco 95 as cheapest in area and I get my clubcard points never had a problem with running rough over 7 years in Porsch and many more in other cars. Might be specific to your branch maybe they have contaminated or badly managed fuel particularly if heavy rain has got into fuel storage.
 
Years ago I had a similar problem to yours, not sure if it was the 944S or the 968 - took 2 tanks of Texaco Clean System to get her running properly again.

However, I've recently been using Tesco Excellium (or whatever they call it) in the 968's without problem - whenever I have a 5p voucher and don't need it for the C270. For the limited mileage I do in the 968, if I don't have a voucher I get Shell V Power and grimace at the price - but the car runs better on the higher octane fuel (used to use normal Shell, switched early this year).
 
Sainsbury's Super. It seems to be the cheapest SUL, the engine runs smoother and you get better fuel economy; more than making up for the increased price.

I used to use that in Japanese turbocharged cars too; although Tesco/Greenergy99 and particularly Shell Optimax/V-Power are noticably better in this application (but wasted on a normally aspirated 944).


Simon
 
I consistently use Tesco's Momentum 99 in the Turbo - never had any issues. Occasionally it gets Shell V Power or as recently some 98 Aral stuff in Germany as the Super 102 was stupidly expensive !
 
I use V-Power normally, unless I have a planning failure and am stuck for fuel when not within reach of a V-Power station, in which case I have been known to use Esso 97 or Total Excellium.
 
Shell V power pretty much all the time, tried the Esso 97 and my knock counter started showing knock events when on boost.
 
2.5 944 was designed to run on 95 so thats what I use, 90% of the time its Shell (for Drivers Points), and the other 10% is normally BP, very rarely use supermarket fuel.

Then every now and again I'll treat it to Shell or BP Premium just for the cleaning agents really.
 
It depends which engine you have - most 944s were designed to run on four star fuel for the octane (98RON). The low compression 924S will run on unleaded far better than any 944 and my 2.7 (as late as an eight valve gets) prefers SUL.
 
You sure about that? inside the cap on mine and pretty much every other one I've seen it says 95 inside the fuel cap........ [&:]
 
Square dash cars should run on 98. Later cars all should run on.95 it was part of Porsche policy for ALL their cars to do so.
Modded turbos would be better on higher.
All seem to be sweeter on 98 though.
 
My Lux ran fine on 95, the S2 always gets super.

Tesco aren't always cheaper, in fact the one near me often hikes the price when they are doing the 5p-off deal so it's actually dearer than the local Esso. That said, I've never noticed the slightest problem with supermarket fuel and have covered hundreds of thousands of miles in various vehicles using it regularly.

In fact, all fuel comes from the same refinery anyway. You don't really think that each company has it's own refineries spread throughout the country, and tankers covering the length of the land, do you? Each company has it's own formula of additives the refinery puts in, but the fuel is the same. If there is a problem with a particular fuel seller locally, as in your case Steve, then it's far more likely to be dirt in their tanks or something.
 
Paul ,
Well said-I have fuel cards,Shell card,etc & I buy wherever cheapest-inc the 5p off deals-filling 3 fuel tanks at £85 (BMW),£65(924) makes it sensible-we have a cheapest fuel alert indicator on the Chamber of Commerce web site so that's useful-you have to watch all of them -Shell have a habit of only selling the premium fuels in some bays & it's easy to get caught out in the queues.
I find adding the appropriate Redex has more effect on engine smoothness.
 
I use Tesco Super 99 (Millennium) as it is now called, it seems to make the car run smoother, not sure that it makes a lot of difference economy wise though. The inside of my filler cap says minimum 96RON, but this may apply to leaded fuel.

The manual states for cars with a cat that they should run on normal (non premium) unleaded for 944 with a minimum of 91 RON. The 944S and turbo should run on premium 95 RON fuel.

For those without a cat, which I believe mine is, should be run on 96RON but this relates to the leaded fuel.


 
It seems to me that Super 98/99 Ron has always been a few pence more per litre compared to Standard 95 Ron. Now that petrol is nearly £1.40 a litre, those few pence are only a tiny percentage yet the increased mpg is definitely around the 5% mark with my cars so it's quids in cheaper to use the better Super 98/99 Ron
 
It is about 3 to 5 quid more per fill up to use V-Power. In my 944 I was never able to tell a significant difference in MPG as I think you have the choice to either exploit the better MPG or better power - but not both, so if you drive economically you should see an improvement in economy. I did notice that the car ran much better on V-Power - it was smoother, more responsive and just nicer. With shell you get the V-Power card which earns you double points when you fill up with V-Power and you can convert your points into money off vouchers for fuel, so in the long run if you exploit deals like these then you are probably no worse off or maybe better off. It still doesn't half sting when you fill up though. I wouldn't mind if they used the extra revenue to upgrade the roads and build new ones - at least you could see the benefit of your extra tax pennies, but they don't.

I think the multi-car strategy is looking more and more sensible these days. The only time I noticed significant increase in MPG in my 944 was when I drove more dual carriage ways or motorways - i'd easily see my mpg rocket from around mid twenties to mid thirties, and on one trip I even nudged 40mpg, so far more sensible to have one of those tax-free sub 100 co2/km 60mpg cars, like the Seat Ibiza 1.4TDi or equivalent Fiesta or something, for the boring daily grind to and from work and the shops clocking up the majority of your miles, and have something more fun and less frugal in the garage for those fun drives or longer distance drives. Even 20 mpg is cheap if you only do about 2k - 3k miles per year.

I've suggested to the wife that we ditch the Focus and SMax for two super frugal smaller cars, as most of our mileage is the 20 mile round work commute and ferrying the kids around, and have a nice RS6 avant in the garage for the weekend family jaunts. She was not particularly keen, but i'm working on her! Was tempted for a while with the Hartech 3.0ltr 944 turbo, but as always, timing is not right.
 
I always fill up both cars with super but don't really pick a supplier however we have an Esso not far from us that always has the cheapest super around, normally only a couple of pence dearer then their normal unleaded.

Agree 100% with Scott as well, even at £1.40 a litre fuel is still a minor cost on our 2, the case where fuel costs are an issue for us is getting to and from tracks. It is fast becoming a major component to the costs of racing as for us a typical race weekend would be over 400 miles with the Rangie at 25 mpg + the fuel used in the S2 on track, thick end of £200 in fuel over a weekend.
 
I have been running my 1983 Porsche 924 on Jet 98 octane from the local garage.

She seems quite happy on it.
There is a Shell garage about 10 miles away but I have not tried their V-Power yet.
 

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