Tyres - 944 Turbo
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robwright
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I have Conti sports on the back, which I would swear by but I got a good deal on them. On the fronts I have Khumo Ecstas. The price on them was good and they have directional treads. Can't fault the performance for road use. Only downside for me is they don't have the rim saver on them, which I quite like the look of.
Ewan
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On the 12th July I started a thread on this topic, so scroll back about 15 pages or so and you should find it. My new tyres went on about 7 weeks ago and look great. Embarrasingly enough I've not driven the car since though so can't report on their performance yet! Hopefully I'll take it for a spin before Christmas. If not, maybe in 2012.
Neil Haughey
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Ask anyone who races in the PCGB club championship as its the control tyre.
For a road tyre the new homologated Pilot Exalto 2 should be very very good, its the only truely modern tyre that has been approved by Porsche for use on our cars and comes from a model range with a very good rep. I had PE2's on a different car before and they were brilliant wet or dry.
It is abundantly clear from tyre comments on this and other fora that there are no "best tyres everyone swears by". It is also logical.
One person's selection criteria will be very different from those of another person. Perceptions will also vary according to the kind of use you put the car to and the sort of roads you drive on, and the local temperatures, have a great bearing too. Someone who cares mainly about track days in the south will have a totally different "best tyre" from someone who uses their car mainly for getting around the North Yorkshire Moors in the damp and rain.
Another major influence on "which are the best tyres" is what wheels you have available. For example, if you are on early Turbo or S2 wheels, 7" and 8" x 16, you have much more choice than if you are on late Turbo 7.5" and 9" x 16, as there are really only three sensible options for the rears in 245/45 16 (Bridgestone S02, Cont SportContact N1 and Toyo T1-R). If you are on 17" then you have far more choice again.
It is also a significant issue that having different size tyres front and rear makes it really quite limiting if you want four of the same make on the car.
I am not particularly bothered about ultimate cornering grip but want my car to have good steering feel, good traction, be reasonably quiet and cope well with poor road surfaces and uneven cambers. I dislike tramlining and find a lot of modern cars a bit over-tyred. I put a large premium on wet grip.
For myself, I have just put a nice new set of W-rated Uniroyal Rainsports on S2 wheels 205/55 16 front, 225/50 16 rear, and am looking forward to trying those once the car comes back from the body shop. I am not going to drive it in salty conditions but do expect to drive it a lot in the wet this autumn.
On the 7.5" and 9" late Turbo wheels that are actually on the car at the moment I currently have Toyo T1-R at the rear (245/45 16) and Goodyear Eagle GDS3 at the front (225/50 16). These have been OK but I would be happier with the same front and rear. I'll put them back on next summer and wear them out a bit, then get the wheels refurbed and put a new matching set of SportContact N1 on.
On my BMW 320D I have Conti SportContact3 in 225/45 17 (non runflat) and they are absolutely fabulous. if I ever move to 17" wheels on the Porsche, the SportContact3 would be high on my list. I have also put a new set of Goodyear Ultragrip 8 in 205/55 16 on the spare wheels for that car ready for the winter and will report back...
I agree, but you can't get those in 245/45 16 for the 9 inch late Turbo rears.Great for early Turbo or S2 8 inch rears though.
One person's selection criteria will be very different from those of another person. Perceptions will also vary according to the kind of use you put the car to and the sort of roads you drive on, and the local temperatures, have a great bearing too. Someone who cares mainly about track days in the south will have a totally different "best tyre" from someone who uses their car mainly for getting around the North Yorkshire Moors in the damp and rain.
Another major influence on "which are the best tyres" is what wheels you have available. For example, if you are on early Turbo or S2 wheels, 7" and 8" x 16, you have much more choice than if you are on late Turbo 7.5" and 9" x 16, as there are really only three sensible options for the rears in 245/45 16 (Bridgestone S02, Cont SportContact N1 and Toyo T1-R). If you are on 17" then you have far more choice again.
It is also a significant issue that having different size tyres front and rear makes it really quite limiting if you want four of the same make on the car.
I am not particularly bothered about ultimate cornering grip but want my car to have good steering feel, good traction, be reasonably quiet and cope well with poor road surfaces and uneven cambers. I dislike tramlining and find a lot of modern cars a bit over-tyred. I put a large premium on wet grip.
For myself, I have just put a nice new set of W-rated Uniroyal Rainsports on S2 wheels 205/55 16 front, 225/50 16 rear, and am looking forward to trying those once the car comes back from the body shop. I am not going to drive it in salty conditions but do expect to drive it a lot in the wet this autumn.
On the 7.5" and 9" late Turbo wheels that are actually on the car at the moment I currently have Toyo T1-R at the rear (245/45 16) and Goodyear Eagle GDS3 at the front (225/50 16). These have been OK but I would be happier with the same front and rear. I'll put them back on next summer and wear them out a bit, then get the wheels refurbed and put a new matching set of SportContact N1 on.
On my BMW 320D I have Conti SportContact3 in 225/45 17 (non runflat) and they are absolutely fabulous. if I ever move to 17" wheels on the Porsche, the SportContact3 would be high on my list. I have also put a new set of Goodyear Ultragrip 8 in 205/55 16 on the spare wheels for that car ready for the winter and will report back...
I agree, but you can't get those in 245/45 16 for the 9 inch late Turbo rears.Great for early Turbo or S2 8 inch rears though.
VanhireBoys
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I have Bridgestone Turanzas and I find them a good mix of wet grip and longevity...! Its just noramal driving for me no high speed or track use so I am easy enough pleased......
I will probably go for the Michelin tyres that Neil recommended next time around..
I will probably go for the Michelin tyres that Neil recommended next time around..
Suffolk944
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As Neil has said, these really are track tyres rather than for the road. When I got my car it had these fitted - a week later I found myself driving through snow and slush with them....not a happy experience !
MarkK
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I have used a lot of tyres recently lol,[
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Mich Cups -track tyre great in dry and damp,lethal in wet.
For road use they appear not legal very quick as tread is very minimal especially on edges.Big bucks at 1000 pounds a set..
Tr888 Toyos are a great alrounder great in dry and also better in wet as they have deep grooves going to the edge,I racedwith these on at Spa in a biblical flood and drove around people with Mich cups on,when it started to dry they started to speed up again(too late though lol).They are supplied by Renault on some of there road going sport models.They appear legal for longer as grooves are deeper.Even driven in snow on these.
Dunlop Dirrezzo (Spelling!?) These are like toyos for tread depth so you could use them on the road,they handle heat better than the Toyos,have a softer sidewalls ,but I am pretty sure you can only get them in 17 inch dimensions.
For road use only applications Conti sport contacts N rated are great quality for the price,nice at road velocity,great in the wet.Anyone that says they are not a good tyre is driving on 5 year old ones that are past their best.
If you can fit the Exalto tyres to an early Turbo I am positive they would be awesome,I run first gen Exaltos on my pug 205 gti,they do wet,dry and track an amazing allrounder,wish they fitted later turbos.Will be trying to finish my pugs set off on Monday at Silverstone[]
]Mich Cups -track tyre great in dry and damp,lethal in wet.
For road use they appear not legal very quick as tread is very minimal especially on edges.Big bucks at 1000 pounds a set..
Tr888 Toyos are a great alrounder great in dry and also better in wet as they have deep grooves going to the edge,I racedwith these on at Spa in a biblical flood and drove around people with Mich cups on,when it started to dry they started to speed up again(too late though lol).They are supplied by Renault on some of there road going sport models.They appear legal for longer as grooves are deeper.Even driven in snow on these.
Dunlop Dirrezzo (Spelling!?) These are like toyos for tread depth so you could use them on the road,they handle heat better than the Toyos,have a softer sidewalls ,but I am pretty sure you can only get them in 17 inch dimensions.
For road use only applications Conti sport contacts N rated are great quality for the price,nice at road velocity,great in the wet.Anyone that says they are not a good tyre is driving on 5 year old ones that are past their best.
If you can fit the Exalto tyres to an early Turbo I am positive they would be awesome,I run first gen Exaltos on my pug 205 gti,they do wet,dry and track an amazing allrounder,wish they fitted later turbos.Will be trying to finish my pugs set off on Monday at Silverstone[
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That's the problem, really. If you haven't tried the same car back to back on two different makes of tyre it's impossible to tell what is a characteristic of the tyres and what is a characteristic of the car. The 944/ 968 and 928 do make quite a bit of road roar in general compared to a lot of modern family cars.
The SportContact3 on my BMW are much, much quieter and smoother than what I replaced with them, but then the SportContact 3 is a very different tyre from the mark 1 SportContact, and in any case what I was replying was some horrible Bridgestone runflats, so almost anything would be quieter and smoother.
The SportContact3 on my BMW are much, much quieter and smoother than what I replaced with them, but then the SportContact 3 is a very different tyre from the mark 1 SportContact, and in any case what I was replying was some horrible Bridgestone runflats, so almost anything would be quieter and smoother.
Neil Haughey
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ORIGINAL: MarkK
Dunlop Dirrezzo (Spelling!?) These are like toyos for tread depth so you could use them on the road,they handle heat better than the Toyos,have a softer sidewalls ,but I am pretty sure you can only get them in 17 inch dimensions.
If you can fit the Exalto tyres to an early Turbo I am positive they would be awesome,I run first gen Exaltos on my pug 205 gti,they do wet,dry and track an amazing allrounder,wish they fitted later turbos.Will be trying to finish my pugs set off on Monday at Silverstone[
Hi Mark, if you mean the DZ03 it comes in 225x45-16 but measures up pretty big and square (228mm width, 223mm tread width and doesn't squidge down as much as many other tyres, the EMC guys reckon they don't alter the overall circumference much if at all despite being a 45 profile rather than a 50. I will likely be moving on to cups though soon for fairly obvious reasons [
]. I have driven my car for about 1500 miles or so on the road this year and for some bizarre reason much of that has been in pouring rain. Only once had a slight aquaplane worry but generally as long as the water isn't standing they seem fine. Still though its another track tyre which is massive over kill for the road. They are also unbelievably heavy and I do wonder how much this difference makes as the cups are well known for being a very light tyre. I had 225x45-17 PE2's on my old Saab 9-5. They gave stunning grip wet or dry waaay more in fact than the rubbish chassis/suspension of that car (aero spec) could handle. They also seemed to last pretty well that thing had conti's on before which didn't seem to last very long. When Steph's tyres wear out I will flash the plastic and get a pukka set of N0 Michelin PE2's on her 968 as I am sure they will be brilliant.
Fat Albert
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I have just noticed that the inside of one of my P6000s on the front is finally showing some sign of wear!!
They are 205s on a 17" wheel and are planning to put some Falken 452s on to match the rear.
From what I am hearing it sounds like I would be better sticking with 205s rather than going up to 225s?
They are 205s on a 17" wheel and are planning to put some Falken 452s on to match the rear.
From what I am hearing it sounds like I would be better sticking with 205s rather than going up to 225s?
Nah, you're just not trying hard enough! I've got through about four sets in the last four years, and only fallen off the road once.
Not surprisingly, you can also pick up nearly-new pairs for peanuts, which is kind of handy if you need to cover a lot of miles on a budget.
Not surprisingly, you can also pick up nearly-new pairs for peanuts, which is kind of handy if you need to cover a lot of miles on a budget.
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