Took the car to mechanics to get this noise looked at and basically it needed new rear discs and pads (£350), and 2 new tyres all in all totalling £704 Inc VAT. quite expnsive seeing as it only had a grinding noise. There is a water leak, an oil leak and the power steering fluid is leaking too, I am once again carless and left with a huge bill, feeling like I am flogging a dead horse here. Do I sell the car and let somebody else reap the benefits of all the repairs and money spent??? Or do I carry on throwing money at it? It's easy to see why it only cost me 3k
The taste of things to come
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robwright
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Bad luck old chap!!! I say keep at it. Before long the list will get shorter and shorter and then you will start looking at things to do like sun visor clips. The list will never go away though!!! It will just get more trivial. At £3k you should have paid for what was a fairly straight car and stick with it and you will only get dividends out of what I think is an appreciating classic. I feel an Antiques Roadshow moment coming on. "Of course I would never dream of selling her". And I wouldn't!!!
£350 for new disks and pads seems rather expensive. Just bought a front set for a Turbo S at £215 all in for Pagid OEM stuff. Find yourself a club member who is good with spanners and help them out, you'll learn how to do it and it will be half the price. You can do 99 percent of the job with a pair of car ramps. There seems to be a lot of people on the forum who take their cars to garages for relatively simple jobs, working on and repairing the car is half the fun! The garage buddies thing should rear its head again!!!
Alasdair
Alasdair
pauljmcnulty
Active member
That's a lot for discs and pads, but the tyre price of nearly £200 each is shocking! [
]To be fair to the car, brakes and tyres are consumables you'll have to buy on anything you drive that's not brand new, and 944 parts really shouldn't be more than other car parts in most cases.
I'm not picking on you here, just s general point to be made for the benefit of potential buyers. How often do we say it's important, and cheaper in the long run, to spend more for a car where someone else has had the expense. An S2 is not a £3K car, it's a £35K car that you can buy for as little as £3K, but you're still better off spending £6K on a really good one. And, always budget at least £1K in the first year ON TOP of anything you know to be wrong with the car and have factored in to the purchase price.
The cars are over 20 years old now, and things like oil seals and water leaks are inevitable. They're not terminal, though, and as David points out you can get the PAS repaired very cheaply in most cases. More importantly, are the bodywork sound and the major mechanicals, like clutch or cams, good? In which case, by doing all the little jobs, you're on your way to turning the £3K car into a £6K car, whilst enjoying driving it. [
]I've always suggested a 944 will cost about £1K per year to run. Obviously you get good and bad years, services on my old Lux varied between £200 and £800 over 5 years. That's pretty reasonable compared to buying and running a Fiesta, and more fun, but I appreciate it's not helpful when your car is sitting there with a great list of work to be done!
Richard Wheatley does every pipe for the power steering system including the ringed cooler on S2s and Turbos and the HP pipe from pump to rack. Very good prices as well, I always have a full set of new pipes to hand in the garage for fixing peoples cars. His e-mail is powersteering@live.co.uk.
Just phoned Porscheshop for some bits for me and checked S2 rear discs and pads 155 +Vat
If you re anywhere near Leicester let me knnow
Id love to know what tyres are being reccommended
Mike
If you re anywhere near Leicester let me knnow
Id love to know what tyres are being reccommended
Mike
Fat Albert
New member
I paid £110 each, fitted, for the Falkens on the back of my Turbo
Also decide how much you oil leak is costing you in lost oil balanced against the cost of fixing it!
I have 3 minor leaks (although one drips onto the exhaust manifold causing puffs of white smoke from under the bonnet) but changing to a thicker oil has drastically reduced loss, I will have the cam cover one attended to when it goes in for it's make-over in the spring
Also decide how much you oil leak is costing you in lost oil balanced against the cost of fixing it!
I have 3 minor leaks (although one drips onto the exhaust manifold causing puffs of white smoke from under the bonnet) but changing to a thicker oil has drastically reduced loss, I will have the cam cover one attended to when it goes in for it's make-over in the spring
MRGT
New member
Thats seems an awfully large bill for pads, discs and a couple of tyres. Assuming your running 16in wheels you should be looking at approx £50-60 each for fronts and £60-70 for rears (going for Falken's or Toyos), brake pads should be relatively cheap (I just paid £65 for Pagids -both front and rear's, although still require fitting), and I think I paid around £100 for front discs 12 months ago.
Can only add to the sentiment already expressed on here; you are clearly taking the car to a garage, who is charging you for the labour (very expensive, compared with doing it yourself), and cleaning you out with the parts prices.
Shop around for parts and fit 'em yourself. Disks and pads aren't hard - particularly not on a 944. Yes, you'll need some tools but they aren't that expensive, and are positively cheap compared to paying someone else to do the job.
Talk to local members (your profile doesn't say where you are!) Ask to help a more hands-on local chap with some work on his, and see if he will return the favour. At the very least, it will give you a good idea of how to go about working on your own car.
Or do as I do and hold a garage day - where everyone else comes and works on your car for free! (Yes, it happened on both occasions!)
944's were expensive cars new. Expensive cars come with expensive running costs, despite the fact that the cars are now cheap to buy. If you bought a brand new Cayman you would expect to spend a LOT running it if you took it into a garage for everything that needs doing. If you take your 944 into a garage in the same way you'll expect similar bills ....
Oli.
Shop around for parts and fit 'em yourself. Disks and pads aren't hard - particularly not on a 944. Yes, you'll need some tools but they aren't that expensive, and are positively cheap compared to paying someone else to do the job.
Talk to local members (your profile doesn't say where you are!) Ask to help a more hands-on local chap with some work on his, and see if he will return the favour. At the very least, it will give you a good idea of how to go about working on your own car.
Or do as I do and hold a garage day - where everyone else comes and works on your car for free! (Yes, it happened on both occasions!)
944's were expensive cars new. Expensive cars come with expensive running costs, despite the fact that the cars are now cheap to buy. If you bought a brand new Cayman you would expect to spend a LOT running it if you took it into a garage for everything that needs doing. If you take your 944 into a garage in the same way you'll expect similar bills ....
Oli.
Suffolk944
Moderator
Yup there will always be jobs that need doing on a 20 year old car, but that bill does sound like you have been taken for a bit of a ride as neither the brakes nor tyres should come to that sort of figure. As for the other niggles, unless the fluid losses are really severe its certainly something that can be lived with for a good amount of time. If you love the car enough to regard it as a keeper then all these jobs can be spread out over time and the pain will be numbed !
Seems like they are having you off, sounds quite expensive to me, rear discs and pads an hour and a half labour tops ! Quite an easy job actually.
Fiend, i have done belts straghtforward but can be a PITA if things won't free off (front pulley) nowt to be frightened of, but if you find a garge with decent labour rates let them do it.
Mark at Longmile Garage is a good lad who also likes his cars.
Re-tension them after 2k.
Fiend, i have done belts straghtforward but can be a PITA if things won't free off (front pulley) nowt to be frightened of, but if you find a garge with decent labour rates let them do it.
Mark at Longmile Garage is a good lad who also likes his cars.
Re-tension them after 2k.
okay i am picking the car up this weekend and will get a full receipt so i can see what he's done, on the phone he said that the reason these discs are expensive is because the shoe is inside the disc? Sound odd to me. He told me that the labour would be between 100-125 and the tyres are about 60 quid each, i would love to have the time to learn how to do these bits myself, especially now i have this bill. Maybe i have missed something, he said discs, pads and something else im sure, anyway will know soon enough.
Thanks for the replies
Lloyd
Thanks for the replies
Lloyd
Hi Lloyd
The discs are a little strange, yes the handbrake works on shoes that are located inside the same casting as the discs!
£55 a disc for them verses £75 the pair for my wifes Hyundai front vented discs.
If its the handbrake shoes as well - theyre about £75 - plus the springs!
Whereabouts are you - I'm sure there must be someone local to at least give you some pointers.
Mike
The discs are a little strange, yes the handbrake works on shoes that are located inside the same casting as the discs!
£55 a disc for them verses £75 the pair for my wifes Hyundai front vented discs.
If its the handbrake shoes as well - theyre about £75 - plus the springs!
Whereabouts are you - I'm sure there must be someone local to at least give you some pointers.
Mike
ukmastiff
New member
Just wanted to say re the original question of " is it because I only only paid 3,000 " , I would totally say no. I know our 944's are joke money compared to new but I know that 3 to 3500 will buy you a perfectly good S2 or a 220 Turbo ' at the moment' if you are patient. Not having it checked over properly can lead to big bills though
( or a bit of sheer bad luck for tht matter) , if you have paid £3,000 or £7,000 IMHO
Best of luck
Mas
( or a bit of sheer bad luck for tht matter) , if you have paid £3,000 or £7,000 IMHO
Best of luck
Mas
Fat Albert
New member
I paid £2,600 for mine and have done almost 5,000 miles and spent £700 on it.
I am, however, expecting to spend at least £1,000 this year to sort out a few issues and improve some areas, but it is small change compared to the depreciation we experience on my Wife's BMW 7 Series!
I am, however, expecting to spend at least £1,000 this year to sort out a few issues and improve some areas, but it is small change compared to the depreciation we experience on my Wife's BMW 7 Series!
TheFiend
New member
I paid £1500 for mine 12 months ago, it came with full service history, and has cost me less than £75 in bits and bobs over 12 months.... And I have done 11000 miles in it.....
Only once has she let me down... when an alternator failed...... but managed to find a replacement for £25 and she was good to go again
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