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SC & 3.2 Carrera Track Performance

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I guess this is a question aimed at regular track goers.

Where in the list of track times Top Gear has made around its track do you think a stock SC or Carrera would come in? Assume the STIG drives as usual. Would it beat the likes of the Cooper S, Focus RS etc?

Maybe that little guy will let the Stig out in his SC.
 
[&:] I have just done my first Track Day - a twisty low speed circuit where you only use second gear.I gatecrashed a Seat Cupra Track Day and got trounced by a 1.4 Cupra because of huge low speed understeer! I didn' t want to lose the back end so I filled the tank up beforehand-wrong move! The 911SC/3.2 is set up to understeer so that it doesn' t frighten people.Next time I will run with a low fuel level and jettison all tools, spare wheel etc and try again.I did get a mention for the best sounding engine though.
It was good fun mixing with other petrolheads though.The Cupra guys had the advantage of being able to chuck the car around with total confidence and let the tyres do all the work.One guy trashed a 17" front tyre,several others were trying so hard that you couldn' t tell what make tyre they had due to wearing the sidewalls out! The three Porsches though(911SC,944,968CS),just kept going round and round with minimal tyre wear doing what they were designed for.
 
huge low speed understeer!
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Just use the engine grunt to overcome most of the understeer - power it round the corners (not too much, mind you, else oversteer becomes a slight problem !) I leave it up to you to decide where the dividing line is.
 
I guess that its quite humbling being beaten round a track by a warm/hot hatch! I would hope that in the hands of a good driver that he would be capable of getting faster times than he would in the likes of a Golf R32 or Focus RS. On a wet road though, I find it hard to muster the guts to even outrun a Lada![;)] Very twitchy!
 
The Seat 1.4 driver did change onto Colway tarmac rally tyres! Not to mention the chipped circa 200 bhp turbo diesels that were there.Floor the throttle,plume of black smoke from the exhaust,plumes of blue smoke from the front tyres and off they went it was hilarious watching them!
 
Stuart

The ACO (Le Mans) plans to change the rules to let diesels compete on equal terms with petrol cars. Just the fuel tank/refueling issues to address, and away they go.

Actually, they have already raced at Le Mans, but some time ago, and didn' t do too well, I believe.

So......
 
If you' re serious, then I can understand that manufacturers want to promote diesels and would benefit from some glamour. It is also the best way to improve the breed.
In the real world of normal motoring, they make sense.
But for sports cars, a diesel does not sound right. If they want to go all environmental, modify the car to run on alcohol, modified rapeseed oil or something that requires a spark plug, but is renewable. Something thin that burns fast and allows high revs.

Ferrari (and I believe Porsche) have stated that they have no intention of building a diesel car. Although this could be political speak for it' s coming next week, but I doubt it.

On the plus side, at least electric cars seem not to have got off the ground, although fuel cells will not doubt get there in the end. These are silent, so you will need a good stereo to play those recordings of flat six noises while wafting up the road.
 
Stuart

Yep, the ACO is serious about diesel racing (as much from a ' lets be green' type attitude as a genuine alternative fuel, I think) - check their site for future rule changes.

Fuel cells will never be viable until someone puts a lot of money into it, including the sale of the fuel at all service stations. Electric cars (with batteries) will go nowhere until they accept that we don' t all have charging points (not in London, anyway), and that they are certainly not polution free (just think of all the powerstations needed for all the recharging electricity).

Just my opinion, from all I have read.
 
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