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Removing after-market alarm

Joss Walker

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I had a really reliable TOAD alarm that the PO had installed in the car but some of the wiring for this was cut through when the doors were removed, I'm assuming that this is one of the reasons that the car won't start so am thinking about removing the alarm to try to get the car running again. How do I do it? I'm guessing that I can't just disconnect the control unit because if that would work then the alarm wouldn't be very effective, I know that if I pay a professional to install a new alarm then they will usually remove the old one but I don't want to do that before I get the car running again.

Trying to tidy up the 'additional' wiring is a nightmare, the car is 21 and I think it must have received new alarms, stereos, reversing aids etc nearly every other year
 
The alarm is basically a box full of relays that will open and close the circuits of the car. Start at the box and pick one pair of wires at a time. Each pair will go to a specific circuit in the car. At the ends of the wire pairs the original circuit will be cut and the two wires of the alarm will be joined to the ends that were cut. Remove the alarm wires then rejoin the original wires. It ALWAYS better to do this by soldering then cover in heatshrink material. A solder joint is impervious to moisture. You may find that some wires are not in pairs but just single and spliced into the existing wiring. These are circuits that the alarm doesn't need to diasable but does need to operate such as indicators or central locking. In this case trace the wire to wear it is spliced into the car's wiring and cut it there and make good with heatshrink or tape where the wire was cut out. Hope this helps mate [:)]
 
Theres plenty of wiring diagrams available on line for Toad alarms and I bet you could pick up a second hand one with a good wiring harness on e bay.
 
Thanks a lot Rob, as I dreaded it sounds like a real pain in the a**e job but at least now I have a clue what I am trying to do!
 
You can pick up a brand new one for less than £100. I did and fitted it myself. My car had a separate alarm and immobiliser fitted although I never received the fob for the alarm. I removed them both and fitted a Stirling. I think Stirling now own Toad or something like that [&:] Anyway result is I now have one system that unlocks and locks the car for me and I don't have to mess around sticking fobs into other receptacles before I can start. One button on the remote unlocks and unimmobilises the car then go. I could even wire it in to close the windows when the car is locked if I could be arsed to. [:)]
 
ORIGINAL: robwright

The alarm is basically a box full of relays that will open and close the circuits of the car. Start at the box and pick one pair of wires at a time. Each pair will go to a specific circuit in the car. At the ends of the wire pairs the original circuit will be cut and the two wires of the alarm will be joined to the ends that were cut. Remove the alarm wires then rejoin the original wires. It ALWAYS better to do this by soldering then cover in heatshrink material. A solder joint is impervious to moisture. You may find that some wires are not in pairs but just single and spliced into the existing wiring. These are circuits that the alarm doesn't need to diasable but does need to operate such as indicators or central locking. In this case trace the wire to wear it is spliced into the car's wiring and cut it there and make good with heatshrink or tape where the wire was cut out. Hope this helps mate [:)]

That's the best description of how to remove an alarm I have ever read. Spot on, Rob.

Expensive cars were supplied without alarms and immobilisers for many years, before manufacturers started building them in. So they had aftermarket ones fitted. All well and good, but the average car alarm fitter is not the cleverest of beasts (apologies to any who may be reading this), and tends to be deeply in love with scotchblock connectors, nasty insulation tape and has little regard for good quality workmanship. Hence many alarms 'went wrong'. Solution? Well, solving the problem would be tedious for an alarm fitter, especially when they could just sell a new alarm ... so a new alarm would be fitted (equally badly), and the cycle would repeat, often with the old alarm semi-removed.

Fast forward 10 years and there are a lot of cars with bits of alarms semi-fitted, and problems waiting to happen. If you have an old car with bits of alarm fitted, it is ALWAYS a good idea to remove them and make sure that the connections re-made are done properly, with solder and heatshrink. It makes for a tidy, reliable contact and you won't regret it. And, if you fit an alarm (which is quite possible as a DIY job), follow the same rules; solder and heatshrink, cut wires to length and route them carefully.

(I recall removing an INDECENT amount of hi-fi and alarm cabling from an old Mk2 Golf I once bought. I lined the cable I had removed up by the car and remember working out that there was getting on for 1/2km of wiring ... and it wasn't light stuff either!)

A cheaper, well-fitted alarm is a much better long-term ownership proposition than an expensive, badly-fitted alarm.

(If you do fit an alarm yourself and need to declare it for insurance purposes, you'll need a certificate to say it works as it should. Your local alarm installer should be happy to inspect your work and give you such a certificate - mine cost around £30, I seem to remember.)


Oli.
 
I had to remove a toad alarm from a Pajero last year. All the cabling is in black to prevent easy removal or bypass.
All you need to do is to follow all the black Toad cables to where they join the car's cabling . Remove the black toad cables and rejoin all the car's cables that have been cut as you go
You can still get spare parts and a schematic with programming instructions from Toad I think they charge £5.00 for the schematic.
 

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