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Porsche Wilmslow -A Cautionary Tale

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A word of warning to anyone in Cheshire who might be interested in using this OPC.

I'm well aware of the comments around regarding the 'variable' standard of service from OPC's but as I'd only recently bought the car, I wanted to give them a chance when something went wrong. You may remember we actually had some sunshine a few weeks ago. Well, I took the hardtop off and left the car outside overnight. Big mistake!
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Much water in car, many warning lights and no alternator charging. Took it straight round to the OPC as I was going away on a weeks holiday the next day and asked them to find and fix waterleaks, dry the car out and sort any electrical probs.

Also asked them to refurb the alloys as they were quoting a reasonable price and the car would be with them for a good week at least. Didn't need it as I was away. Also asked them to do an airbag check as it was overdue for one and had been missed by the last dealer.

Also assured that PCGB members get a 10% discount. Not bad I thought. I reckon they saw me coming.....
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Two weeks and a lot of phone calls later they claim to have fixed the car. Forgot to do the wheels, so had to hang onto it for an extra couple of days but I wasn't in a desperate rush for it.

Drivers door seal leaked so had been replaced. Generator and battery had failed so had been replaced. Stripped all the inside out and dried it. Assured car watertight and tested ok.

On the day they were due to deliver it back to me they drove it out of the workshop into the rain and water pi$$ed in! Seems they hadn't bothered checking for any other leaks after they found the one in the door.

However, they didn't want it around now and didn't seem interested in sorting it out, although they'd assured me it was done.

Conversation went "we've got a phone number for a trimmer why don't you try there. Or we could put a new roof on for you"!!!
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Eventually put the car into an independant who cured it quickly and cheaply. One loose seal which needed realigning. Job done. But while he was doing this he checked the car over and found the lacquer was peeling off one of the wheels already after just 5 days and two short drives!

Then we check the bills (yes I should have done this sooner, but work got in the way) and find they've not applied the promised 10%.

Cue call to OPC to be told, "ah, that might be a problem as we'll have to raise another bill, credit yours etc etc...." Of course all my fault for them not doing it right in the first place! But now no guarantee they'll even give me the 10% they promised in the first place.

I'm embarrassed at how much I've paid for shoddy workmanship, most of which I'm going to have to get redone or have had redone - roof seal and wheel refurb.

Below is an extract of a letter I sent them at the weekend. No reply yet though.


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I put my car in with you to have it made watertight again following a bad leak. You did not properly check the car after the first leak and then handed it back to me without offering to do the job properly.

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The wheel refurbishment was poor and lacquer has already started peeling off one wheel.

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Promised 10% discount has not been applied and I have been made to feel as if it is my fault and that you are "˜doing me a favour' by sorting it out. Either you offer the discount, as I was advised when I dropped the car off, or you do not. If not let me know and I will advise PCGB accordingly.

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Finally your engineer could not find my service book to stamp it up for the airbag inspection, despite it being in the wallet, in the holder, under the steering wheel "" the same place as these are kept on similar models. If he cannot check in the right place, what guarantee do I have that he has done any of the important work correctly?


Number 4 just makes me want to cry, These clowns can work on my car but can't find the sodding service book in it's holder??????

I feel a complete prat for trusting these people. If you put your car in there, make sure you get any offers of discount in writing and don't pay anything until you've tested whatever it is they are supposed to have repaired.
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I went with my 1993 964 Turbo 3.6 not long after i bought it three years ago and when i enquired about a quick once over and servicing i was told 'nobody knows much about the old cars' so my association with the OPC's ended v.quickly.

Unless under warranty and you feel you need 'the stamps' alway trust the independants.
 
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I agree - I have never had a great experience at Wilmslow OPC.

I tried to buy a car off them about 3-4 years ago but gave up in the end. The young kids they had on sales that weekend didn't know there a**e from there elbow! They were rude, arrogant and had a attitude that really sucked! They couldn't even be bothered to get off the there seats and greet us properly and just sat at there.

I overheard one salesman ( who was sat down behind his desk whilst the customer was stood up!!) telling complete porkies about the standard Cayenne (3.2) when it first came out saying that it had the same engine as the Cayenne S - I couldn't believe his slack of product knowledge. Wife and I left and have not been back in more that 3 years.

They might put on the odd great buffet for the club nights etc but as for enthusiasts - forget it. They are after the highly paid footballers and city traders brigade from the Cheshire set who are only interested in being feted to spend there over inflated salaries and bonuses.
 
Well i'll speak as i find...

I've had all my warranty and (very) recently the first service comleted on my 987 - booking in, availability of the loan car details, drop off and collection have all been very efificent and courteaous.

I'm glad thats the case, as my previous experiences of my nearest OPC are worse than the opening post.

If i'm not happy with Wilmslow then my next nearest is 90 miles away.

As for the indi's - yes if your car is 5 years or older then its a worthwhile move (probably better service and cheaper to boot!), but for those with almost new cars its debatable whether and 'independent' service history from new is as valuable come resale.
 
Why not remind the OPC that you were relying upon their expertise and experience in dealing with the water problem also the whell refurbishment, and that they should reimburse you for any additional expense in putting right what they did not rectify/do properly. Unless you are an expert or, alternatively, expressly told them what to do [or not to do] they are caught by your reasonable expectation that they would do the work in a proper, workmanlike and professional manner.

This might wake them up - to your advantage.

Or threaten a Solicitor's letter with legal action to follow [:-].
 
I think really when it comes to main dealers its just like a production line, sling them together and out they go. I mean hey are all there mechanics Porsche trained?? i dont think so i mean lets face it how hard is it to get a job in a main dealer as a techy!!! You think your getting experienced workers on your car but from my experience of working for main dealers techy's dont last five minutes! I think you are much better with a back street garage that specialises in Porsche's, you will always have a better experience as most (not all) independent companies take pride in their work as its their own business and most of these people are nornmaly fanatics and have worked on these cars for years.
 
I'm based 6 miles from Chester OC and wouldn't go there if the paid me - two new cars damaged, one to the extent of a full refund on delivery day tells me enough is enough.

I know every OPC has good and bad reports - i'm not convinced Wilmslow will be exemplary in the long term, but hopefully by then i'll either have changed cars (and probably manufacturer) or be using Tech9 or Ninemeister.
 
I agree about Chester-awful. And my freshly painted car got ruined bt acid rain from all those factories.
Wilmslow to me was excellent. Couldnt fault them. To the extent that I wrote a letter to the DP telling him so. Now I wouldnt do that normally-I was just so surprised by the service.
 
As I run older cars I only use independents for servicing and work I can't do myself.

I regularly Wilmslow OPC parts counter though and the lads on there are friendly, helpful and knowledgeable. Sounds like they could teach the sales staff a thing or too.
 
I agree that the parts people are very helpful. However it's the mechanics I'm concerned about. If one of them couldn't even find my service book to stamp it up, when it's fitted in the rack under the steering wheel, what hope to we have!

Anyway, did get a reply from the DP who apologised, although couldn't offer an explanation as to why I received the shoddy work. Did recify the wheel and offer me a discount on future work as well as refund what they overcharged for not applying the PCGB discount.

The excuse was that the person on service did not actually book the details of the work into the computer, just scibbled it on some paper then cleared off on holiday for a week! Hence nobody really knew what was to be done.

If I go in there again I'll make them give me a print out from the computer screen to prove they've entered the job details.

However I can really recommend JMH in Holmes Chapel - fantastic service, friendly and courteous. Will be taking the car there in future.
 
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However I can really recommend JMH in Holmes Chapel - fantastic service, friendly and courteous. Will be taking the car there in future.

Couldn't agree more. I've been using Jason for a couple of years now and he's always provided superb service. This is obviously the reason why he's getting busier each time I drop in there.
 
Had my first official service carried out early August - no issues with supplying my own oil or using the PCGB discount (saved about £100 overall in total - first service and brake fluid change). They picked up a couple of extra items as car was approaching end of warranty, and the car has been back in since and sorted without any fuss, with a courtesy car on hand for the period of any work.

Service desk staff are fine - not always the most knowledgeable or friendly of folk, but not unpleasant either.
 
I have had similar experience in the NE and with Porsche customer service - should be sued under trade descriptions act!With hindsight i should have just taken legal action and not wasted time trying to sort things amicably.
My last hope for dealing with an OPC lies in Kendal.I have heard good reports and some
NE members are making the journey.What do NW members think of them?
 
Kendal is a very small OPC - the showroom doesn't hold more than 5 cars.

The small size should mean a bit more personal service, and a bit more care - my experiences of using dealers further afield is they tend to look after you as you are goign out of your way in choosing them.
 
PCGB discount on your service at Wilmslow?????

When I had my MAJOR service in June (which ended up totalling around £900), I specifically asked them about PCGB discount and they replied that it didn't apply...muttering something about "menu pricing"...

Grrrr....!!!!

I'd really appreciate it if you could get in touch with me as I'd like further details so that I can go back to the OPC and challenge their original statement...

BTW, I use Mike Bourke (in Mobberley) for anything other than a service...http://www.sportsandclassic.com
 
Provided you ask when you book the car in its no issue as far as i know - if you don't then its more difficult. I forgot a few years ago when i had an earlier car serviced at Mann Island - they refused to apply the discount when i requested it on collecting the car (invoice already made out sir, no-one in the office now blah blah bull****).
I'll dig out my invoice - drop me your email and i'll scan and send on .
 
You would think that OPC's would just ask the question as matter of course "are you a PCGB member?" yes or no and applly the discount accordingly. When ever it's in the customers favour, such questions are some how conveniently forgotten! The number of times I've picked up parts, then remembered oops! PCGB discount ? swiftly followed by .. "sorry sir, transaction has already been processed ...."

The OPC in Kendal is that still Parker & Parker by any chance?
 

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