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nicksonmsport

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well a set of pagids for my 944 turbo with m030 front calipers, and std rears comes in at around £475 for the set. thats for rs29 fronts, and rs2/4 rears.

i can get a set of performance friction pfb97 £335 all in.

does anyone have back to back comparisons for these pads? and anyone with experience enlighten me to the merits and downfalls of both.

if i can use the pfb97 at a saving of £140 a set then that would be a bonus, especially if they are 90% as good or as good as the pagids.

let me know your thoughts
nick
 
i forgot to mention carbon lorraine. main reason being that i searched the net last night and couldnt find anyone supplying them??
 
http://www.cl-brakes.co.uk/carbone-lorraine/catalogsearch/result/?q=944+turbo&x=0&y=0

Not M030/928S4 pads, but you can usually find what youre looking for listed under an alternative model which uses the same caliper. They dont have '928 S4' pads listed, although they do have '928 GTS'.


Simon
 
thats great cheers. price is lower than both pagid and pf aswell!
are the rc5+ the current choice for track day cars. does anyone use these cl brakes with good results on here?

will have to speak to them to confirm which pads will fit m030 front calipers.
 
could possibly be the 928 s which has the same part number as the 944 turbo fronts. (4001) which would be correct as later turbos had m030 calipers.
the s2 has 4001 part numbers front and rear which points to the fact the 944 turbo fronts are for the larger caliper with part number 4002, (same as 928 s part number for fronts)

full set of carbone lorraine coming in at around £280 so another £55 cheaper than pf brakes
 
Never used CL but PFC 97's are a great pad with low wear, great bite and feel and never any fade. The downside is that they eat discs & the dust is very nasty - sticks to paintwork & wheels.

PFC 97's for the std S2 / turbo caliper are under £100 for a set! I'm trying out Mintex (cheap at Camskill) on the S2 first, but will go to the PF's next I think.
 
PF97`s are awesome but the sparks that come off them stick onto wheels as they wear discs but for track work they are fantastic however you wont need anything other than standard or mildly upgraded for the rears in my view
 

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however you wont need anything other than standard or mildly upgraded for the rears in my view
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I agree - standard Porsche pads are pretty good anyway. My old turbo was fine with 97's front, std rear, P zero C's, full interior etc.. so standard weight, 300 ish hp.
 
ok thats good info to know, maybe i will just order some front pads then and stick with the std rears for the minute as they have a bit of life in them yet, if i have any braking issues i will upgrade the rears then!

what racing fluid do people use. performance friction seem to do one with higher boiling point than any of the others
 
Id be tempted to start with OEM (Pagid, btw) and work up, rather than buy the fiercest pads and work down. If Porsche OEM Pagids arent up to the job then Id look at Mintex offerings, then Ferodo DS2500s and then upwards if required.

With 944 M030 calipers, youre only likely to run out of brakes if youre braking for too long, I think.


Simon
 
I use ATE blue, a few guys also use SRF. The ATE will boil under racing conditions but is OK the SRF seems to hold up fine and resist boiling but of course is twice as expensive etc.

I use Pagid Yellow in the front and Orange now in the back with stock size S2/968 calipers. The balance is superb and very smooth when trailing off the brakes. The Pagids seems to be very kind on the disks but of course are outrageously expensive.
 
As an alternative to the Performance Friction don't overlook Porterfields, I suspect they are very similar but are often more reasonably priced (if you buy from the States). These are the best I've found over the years (I will do a back to back with PFs at some point, I bought a set to do the comparison). Usual downsides, they're a bit noisy and dusty but who cares [:D]
A big thumbs up for SRF too, I've not had it go off on me even after a 45 minute session (even without additional brake cooling!).
 
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