Not happy either!

[Copperman05]

Got a quote from Daytona for the damage, there has been damage to wing bottoms, both being bent and cracked, new trims also required. Rust has occurred after damage opened bare metal inside. Looking at best part of £900 for repair.


Edd

 

[Hairyarse]

Just got caught up on your thread Edd. Really pleased to hear they're paying for your damage, there are some decent people around! TBH I thought you might struggle

Good stuff []

 

[944 man]

I hope that theyll still pay without trying to weasel out of their responsibility. Personally Id be looking to get either a written of clandestinely recorded verbal admission of culpability before hitting them with the £1,000 bill.

On a separate note Edd, do you have any pictures showing your car with the 993 Winter Cups fitted, please? I have a set and Im not sure whether to fit them or not. Theyre the right size, but large 16" tyres are short in choice and long in price.

 

[nick9one1]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

I hope that theyll still pay without trying to weasel out of their responsibility. Personally Id be looking to get either a written of clandestinely recorded verbal admission of culpability before hitting them with the £1,000 bill.

On a separate note Edd, do you have any pictures showing your car with the 993 Winter Cups fitted, please? I have a set and Im not sure whether to fit them or not. Theyre the right size, but large 16" tyres are short in choice and long in price.

That's a very good plan,

I would get one of these If I was you, I've got one and occasionally use it if I'm concerned someone wont honor a verbal contract.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Key-Fob-Ring-Chain-Spy-Hidden-Mini-Camera-DVR-Keychain-Cam-/320892596162?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item4ab6b06fc2
Its cheap and cheerful, audio and video recording are pretty good. you get about 40 mins video from one charge.

 

[colin944]

I take it that Daytona has very large windows.£900 to repair the bottom of your wings? WTF are they having a laugh? Even if they do a good repair there is no way they can justify charging £900.Unless of course they are making your wings out of gold.Or do they give you a 997 turbo as a courtesy car?

 

[vincematthews]

ORIGINAL: colin944

I would have to say that your car has not been jacked up using the bottom of the wings.If they had done that the bottom of your wing would be up around the side repeater.I think if you investigate you will find that they have jacked the car up with a 2 post ramp with the feet on the box section in the middle of the floor at the front.This is a correct position for lifting the car on a 2 post ramp.I would say that they have not wound the feet of the ramp up far enough to clear the bottom of the wings and they legs of the ramp have crushed the wings slightly.

+1

ORIGINAL: nick9one1

that looks nasty, I really feel for you!

I had a similar experience with my Alfa 156. I took it for new tyres and when I picked it up, both footwells were bent inwards where they had placed the jack underneath. I confronted them about it and they just said it wasnt them. I had no way to prove it unfortunately.

It was an easy fix though.. block of wood and lumphammer. Unfortunately your sills are more obvious and delecate than footwells!

Best of luck with getting them to pay for it. Hopefully the fact you had them repaird only 18 months ago will help your case.

Exact same thing happened to me on an Alfa 156 when I was 'rescued' by the RAC!! [] Cost them £700 + courtesy car in the end to put it right . . .

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: colin944

I take it that Daytona has very large windows.£900 to repair the bottom of your wings? WTF are they having a laugh? Even if they do a good repair there is no way they can justify charging £900.Unless of course they are making your wings out of gold.Or do they give you a 997 turbo as a courtesy car?

I think that's a bit harsh.

Daytona have already done a great deal of work on our cars including mine and others on here. The costs reflect how much damage has been done and more correctly how much it costs to put right. The bottoms of both wings are bent and cracked so will need stripping, re-forming, refinishing and repainting and all to a high standard (I wouldn't except anything else). Its not a botch job, its a proper repair carried out by professionals.
The plastic trims alone are £240 from Porsche, so if you take the costs of those off, the 'repair' comes to £631.22 and includes 12 hours of labour.

Perhaps that is more reasonable to you?


Edd

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

On a separate note Edd, do you have any pictures showing your car with the 993 Winter Cups fitted, please? I have a set and I'm not sure whether to fit them or not. Theyre the right size, but large 16" tyres are short in choice and long in price.

As requested, personally I dont really like these wheels in silver but in black they look pretty cool to me. Rear wheel has 18mm spacers, not required to fit but wheels look too inset and 'wrong' without. Spacers not needed for front wheels.

Re tyres, yes less available but still some pretty good ones still made in 225/16 and 245/16, certainly Toyo's, Falkens, S02's and few others inc R888 and other track day tyres. You could certainly fit 205's on the front and 225 on rear too and may increase your choice of rubber somewhat.

A'la rpm's ultr low track machine...

Edd

 

[colin944]

So in reality they are charging £600 for labour and £31 for materials and £240 for the trims.I still think it's very haigh as they are obviously charging you for time when the car is drying etc and not just the hands on time.But i nsupose if you are happy with the results then that's all that matters.Maybe I am more used to pricing up here.I would be asking for photo's of the work in progress as I would like to see what I am paying for.

 

[Copperman05]

I dont think £300 each side is unreasonable, considering what has to be done, basically they have to re-do the bottom part of each wing. I'm just lucky the whole wings arent bent and need replacing. I also find it hard for anyone to judge how much something should cost or not without actually seeing the car for themselves?

Hopefully I wont be paying for it anyway...


Edd

 

[andy watson]

Hi Edd,

How's this going have you got her booked in / under way yet?

 

[colin944]

There are 2 reasons I comented on the cost of the repair.First I have done a very simmilar repair on a pair of wings and it didn't take 6 hours to do.Also when I looked at the photo of your wing I could see more or less how much damage had been done.The rust looked to me as if it was already on the metal before the outer coating of paint and stone gaurd cracked and exposed it to the elements.I make these points as someone who is not trying to cause you hassle but more as someone who has seen alot of repairs on cars that are not the best and worries about your hard earned being taken from you for a repair which should cost less.

 

[Copperman05]

Thanks Colin, I do appreciate that. To be honest the garage also thought the quote was alot, when I questioned Dave about it he told me that it was an unusual repair as it had already been repaired (I had the wing bottom rust cut out, new bit in, front end respray, etc) then it would take a bit more time to re fab the wing bottoms. He also told me that the quote was good for a insurance claim and would have no trouble passing an insurance engineers scrutiny. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

For me when owning a cherished car having a bodyshop that you can trust is so important, TBO I wouldnt trust anyone but Dave and Gorden with my car, over the years we have built up a good relationship and they know my car well. The quality of work they do is second to none, almost like a Porsche approved repair centre but without the extravagant costs. If I have any issues with them I know Dave will sort them and often do me a favour by going the extra mile. Once when I had an issue with a PPF (Paint Protection Film) that allowed a stone through and damaged the paint he even repainted the badge panel free of charge where the film had been compromised and it wasnt even his fault.



Edd

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: andy watson

Hi Edd,

How's this going have you got her booked in / under way yet?

Yes, credit to the garage owner for not dragging this out with insurance claims, etc he has provided a cheque for the full amount quoted and the car is due for work to begin at Daytona on Monday.

Bar the cheque bouncing everything is looking good, thank God!


Edd

 

[PSH]

ORIGINAL: Copperman05

ORIGINAL: andy watson

Hi Edd,

How's this going have you got her booked in / under way yet?

Yes, credit to the garage owner for not dragging this out with insurance claims, etc he has provided a check for the full amount quoted and the car is due for work to begin at Daytona on Monday.

Bar the cheque bouncing everything is looking good, thank God!


Edd

that's very encouraging news Edd , hope you get the car back soon.

Pete

 

[VanhireBoys]

Thats nasty Edd.. but at least they are stumping up...Keep teh pressure on them and dont let them off.. At the end of the day its your car and you can can choose who does the repair whatever the cost. £300 a side is not unreasonale to have it done properly.... You could bodge it for quarter the price but she would never be right and would probably be rusty this time next year.. You cant put a price on a quality job..

If anyon ewants our man Dave said he can supply lessons on how to lift a 944 properly on a 2 post lift.[]

He has special feet he fabricated up for my car, Thomas and Johns 968. At this stage I wont trust anybody else..

 

[PSH]

Quote: You cant put a price on a quality job..


I totally agree with this and actually find £900 for the work involved a very fair price indeed.

Pete

 

[colin944]

Sorry for the synical view boys but I have seen too many botched jobs done at huge expense to owners of cars before.The VW scene was full of so called expert restorers in the late 80's and early 90's and I saw alot of substandard work on cars and vans that were "show class" restorations.Maybe I am not in touch with how much body work costs as I do my own.As long as Copperman is happy with the result then that's all that matters at the end of the day.

 

[Copperman05]

How right you are, and why I say it's important to find one you trust, Daytona really aren't that expensive in my view, Dave only charges £35 per hour labour, if you take a look at their website (Daytona Coachworks) then you will see they don't do botch jobs. In fact I think vfm they are one of the best body shops in the SE.

 

[colin944]

Youre right £35 per hr is not bad at all.Get them to take photo's as they do the job.It gives you something to show any prospective buyer in the future and let them see how much love and money you put into the car.