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foosh944

foosh944

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Hey all im looking at a set of wheels for my s2 they are 19" PORSCHE STYLE TRIPLE SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS 5X130 et45mm and they will come with 255/35/r19 tyres but I've not got a clue if the et is right or if they will fit in the arches and will I be able to steer the thing without scrubbing
 
Yea had the same on my old evo was abit harsh but they are at an amazing price I can't really pass them up
 
I doubt they will fit very well and are just going to look a bit silly on a 944, but its your money and your car. Andy Watson had 18's on his S and has now switched back to 16's. Also IIRC Porsche advise against wheels larger than 17s on 944's as damage can occur.


Edd
 

ORIGINAL: Copperman05

... Also IIRC Porsche advise against wheels larger than 17s on 944's as damage can occur.


Edd
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Porsche doesn't recommend wheels beyond 17" and then some parts must be changed. See article excerpt ...

Date: September 28, 1993

SERVICE INFORMATION

Concern: Installing 17" Porsche wheels on vehicles previously equipped with 16" wheels.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

Installation Information

1. Front and rear fender well lips must be reworked and/or checked for adequate tire clearance. See Fig. 1.

2. Suspension travel must also be checked. Parts such as brake lines, hoses and brackets must have adequate clearance.

3. New caster eccentrics, rear mounts and nuts must be installed in the front control arms. This change is necessary due to a change in caster specification on vehicles equipped with Porsche 17" wheels. The specification for vehicles equipped with 17" wheels is 3'-15'-45. See Fig. 2.

4. Vehicles must have a rear stabilizer bar.

5. When adjusting vehicles to new caster specification, all alignment values should be checked at that time.

6. When summer tires are used on vehicles with 17" Porsche wheels, snow chains cannot be used. If winter tires are used, only snow chains with Porsche Part Number 911 361 924 00 may be used.

7. Tire pressures for front and rear 17" Porsche wheels is to be set at 2.5 bar (36 PSI) at approximately 20'C (68'F).

8. When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.

9. Not for Cabriolet vehicles.

APPROVED WHEEL & TIRE TABLE

Tire size Rim size Offset Position Note

225/45 ZR 17 7,t Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 9 Jxl7 AH 55mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)
225/45 ZR 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 94.@ JX17 AH 68nm Rear (See installation information A through I.)
205/50 R 17 7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Winter tires
225/45 R 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)

NOTE: When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.


PARTS INFORMATION TABLE

Description Part Number Quantity

Spacer Ring 951 331 611 02 2
Wheel Bolt 904 341 671 00 10
Wheel Nut 999 1 82 003 36 10


APPROVED WHEEL PART NUMBER TABLE

Size Offset Part Number

7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm 96536212405
8 Jxl7 AH 52mm 96536212601
9 Jxl7 AH 55mm 96536212800
91.@ Jxl7 AH 68mm 96536212805


APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (SUMMER VERSIONS) TABLE

Size Makes

225/45 ZR 17 Front Bridgestone Expedia S-01 Nl
255/40 ZR 17 Rear Continental Sport Contact CZ 91 NO
Pirelli P700-Z NO
Yokohama A 008P NO
Michelin MXX 3 NO or MXX NO Pilot SX


APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (WINTER VERSIONS) TABLE

Size Makes

205/50 R 17 89 H M&S Front Bridgestone WT05
225/45 R 17 90 H M&S Rear Continental TS 750
Pirelli winter 210 Performance


SUSPENSION PART NUMBER TABLE

Suspension Parts

1. Rear Mount

Part Number Quantity Required
951 341 023 00 2 each

2. Eccentric 951 341 431 02 2 each

3. Nut (torque to 100 Nm) 900 910 115 02 4 each
 

ORIGINAL: Copperman05

I doubt they will fit very well and are just going to look a bit silly on a 944, but its your money and your car. Andy Watson had 18's on his S and has now switched back to 16's. Also IIRC Porsche advise against wheels larger than 17s on 944's as damage can occur.


Edd
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I have run the 18"s for nigh on 10 years, just bolted them on and that was it never changed anything else and never suffered any mechanical damage or apparent excessive wear, but that may due to the car being driven with a fair amount of consideration for her age!

I am still very unsure about the look of the car now with the D90 s on as the sport design's to me make the car look better and a lot more individual, but the ride and handling are soooo much better with the little wheels it was designed with.

I have seen 44's with 19" on but wouldn't know what was done to make them fit, tram lining and heavy steering were quite bad with mine so what those would be like I don't know.

Cars are about what the owner want's and other peoples opinions should be taken as that, just opinions, mine would be if you like them try them, you can always sell and try something else, good luck with what you decide.
 
Thanks for the information guys I think I will pop down there tomorrow and do a test fit and go from there I may get them anyway as I can make a tidy profit from them if I sell them on
 
Would assume as fitted with 255 tyres rims will be at least 8" and with only 45 offset I'm fairly sure they won't fit
 
I keep toying with reverting to smaller wheels as I do miss the agility that the 16" examples give ,but do worry what putting my extra boooost and POWER through rear wheels on less rubber would be like...
 
What sort of power are you running, Jon? I am at about 300 hp on a fit and healthy Promax Level II conversion with the boost set at a conservative 1.05 bar, and I'm actually running on S2 wheels at the moment, so mere 8" rears with 225/50 16 rubber, and it has no problem at all putting down the power. The LSD is in good working order, which must help, but I just don't feel traction-limited at all.
 
I agree with lowtimer, with a good LSD you shouldn't have many traction issues with modified cars running on 16" rims. My car has run for many years with well over 300bhp without any fuss, of course tyres are a big factor here too. I run on Goodyear F1's which give fantastic grip with traction in the wet not being a lot different from the dry.
Back on topic , IIRC Rick had 19" rims from a late model 911 on WUF which I think he was happy with. Personally I didn't like them but then I like the car to remain as Porsche intended on the outside, I just like to improve on its mechanics with a power development program which Porsche should have done themselves and not listen to the bias'd 911 camp. Just think how a 944 today could be with 50+ years of development...:)

Pete
 

ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

What sort of power are you running, Jon? I am at about 300 hp on a fit and healthy Promax Level II conversion with the boost set at a conservative 1.05 bar, and I'm actually running on S2 wheels at the moment, so mere 8" rears with 225/50 16 rubber, and it has no problem at all putting down the power. The LSD is in good working order, which must help, but I just don't feel traction-limited at all.
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TBH I am not sure what power I am running as I have not had the car dyno'd since fitting the new Turbo and MAF. Would guess mid-300's ? Essentially am running the Promax Level III plus a bit. Compression is healthy and I have had the valve seats replaced.

We really must organise another Dyno day !

Encouraging to hear that 16" wheels should be fine, will have to look into that a bit more now..[:)]
 
Not just 16s in my case, but narrow 16s.

I might put the original 9" back on at some stage, I suppose, but it's getting hard to find 245/45 16 in the same makes and speed ratings also available in 225/50.
 
19's on a 944, will just look wrong, they werent designed for those wheels, it will look out of proportion and like you are trying to make an old car look more modern than it is, the overhangs on a 944 are too big, that is the main factor that dates the design and they look good with the original wheels, put these massive hoops on and you draw attention to it with a massive modern wheel which just jars. It makes it look like you want a more modern, sportier car, leave the orginals on and it just looks classic, timeless.

I think 17's are really the biggest it can carry off as a car, a lot of people miss the point, Capri owners who stick modern wheels on just ruin it, it is a taste thing but to me they just look wrong with flat face wheels which no disk and rally low profile tyres.

I think the best wheel on the 944 was the original Fuchs, what are they 14s ?
 

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

I keep toying with reverting to smaller wheels as I do miss the agility that the 16" examples give ,but do worry what putting my extra boooost and POWER through rear wheels on less rubber would be like...
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Dont forget the D90, 993 16's come in 9" at the rear too, 255 section being the standard for 9s and I would have thought enough for your 350bhp!


Edd
 

ORIGINAL: J4CKO

I think the best wheel on the 944 was the original Fuchs, what are they 14s ?
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I admit the Fuch's are nice looking wheels but for me there is only one wheel for the 944 and that's the early deep dish turbo Tele dials, these however are very rare and thus difficult to find. If you get to see an early turbo next to a later car both with Tele dials standing together I'm sure you'll see what I mean..:)

Pete
 
1986 15" ATS telephone dial wheels are smart too, far more so than the later offset style.

OEM fitment Fuchs wheels were 15" and 16" Mark, but 1986 was the final model year which had them fitted.
 
Hey I baught the wheels and put them on for a test fit they look stupid so have already sold them to my mate to put on his Audi now looking at dials but also looking at 17" Fuchs replicas
 
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