My old Turbo for sale on PH
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DivineE
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The trouble with that is when I was trying to demonstrate it to a friend on a sligtly damp day we had to be over 120mph before I could use full throttle. Anything under that and it kept breaking traction so we kept doing short blasts 120-150 then backing off to 120 just to feel the acceleration.
That could have been the combination of Kumo tyres and no LSD to be fair though.WUF seemed to have a lot more traction.
Diver944
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Ben is right of course. Traction becomes a huge issue once you are in the region of 400bhp and 500lbft in a 3+ litre Turbo because they make all that power very low down in the rev range and you have to be very skillful with the throttle control. Highly tuned 2.5's make the power much later on so it's easier to keep traction (relatively). Ideally with a 3+ litre you want much wider sticky track tyres, traction controls and a trick suspension - all of this obviously costs ££££
However in an S2 you can slam your foot to the floor virtually anywhere and never get in to trouble because the power is so much less than the chassis can cope with [
]Given that you are having a custom map anyway with a large-capacity car, there's nothing to stop you having one set up for a more modest level of boost, say 0.6 bar, and maybe even having slightly higher compression than on a big-boost special, to keep the bottom end as frisky as possible. For everyday mixed road use, that might be the very nicest thing of all, around 320 hp I'd guess on a 3.2, and the whole thing feeling like a much bigger normally aspirated engine.
So glad I don't have an S2 or a Turbo, instead I have the easier to live with and overlooked 2.7 lux.
Best of all though 'It's the fastest Colour'
Anyway, I think it's time we got a '944 Shoot Out' organised to sort it out once and for all. Drag Strip, Sprint Circuit or Race Circuit.
Alan.
Best of all though 'It's the fastest Colour'
Anyway, I think it's time we got a '944 Shoot Out' organised to sort it out once and for all. Drag Strip, Sprint Circuit or Race Circuit.
Alan.
Copperman05
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Maybe the answer is to supercharge it...
JamesBall
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The Turbo vs S2 argument is all about the sensation of speed rather than actual speed. I can well believe that an S2 was as fast as my almost-standard Turbo against a stop watch but my Turbo felt much faster. For me this was what was important. In fact, the perfect toy car for me is one that is nice and slow in reality so I don't loose my license but feels like a rocket.
It is the same with all (most?) turbo vs NA cars. Turbo cars just feel faster
(Of course some are actually faster too, but that isn't my point)
It is the same with all (most?) turbo vs NA cars. Turbo cars just feel faster
(Of course some are actually faster too, but that isn't my point)
DivineE
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Hmmm well let me know if she stops driving it
I liked my S3 a lot except it kept breaking down [] wouldn't mind owning a nice example as a sensible hack one day (if the timing is right).Mine was the 1.8t era but I've been in a mapped 2.0 version and that wasn't far off as stupid. They are not that quick in the scale of things but the hit when the turbo kicks with that much boost in is neck snapping. Feels like you're going to bang your head on the back window!
Ben
It is 220 1.8 T, red with silver leather recaro and black piano trim, back seats never sat on and about 45k from new, very clean and original, it handles like a go kart, it would be a serious little car with a re map which would take it to 260 ish.
I will end up with it when she packs driving in.
It is 220 1.8 T, red with silver leather recaro and black piano trim, back seats never sat on and about 45k from new, very clean and original, it handles like a go kart, it would be a serious little car with a re map which would take it to 260 ish.
I will end up with it when she packs driving in.
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