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My new 982 718 Cayman S PDK

Ian,

My preferences were for Michelin Pilot Super Sports, now superseded by the PS4S, for the road, and Cup 2's for the track.

Brian

 
Yesterday I had a 2 hour private track session at Knockhill circuit, Fife, with professional European Le Mans Series (ELMS) JWM GTE team driver Rory Butcher. The purpose was to compare the track performance of my 718 CS PDK, with my previous Cayman R manual. Rory had previously tutored me at Knockhill in 2014 with my CR so it was fitting that he accompanied me also in the new 718 CS. This was my first opportunity to fully explore the capabilities of my car on a track I know extremely well. Fortunately, the weather was dry all day, albeit a chilly one with temps reaching only 9c.

The main purpose was to appraise the handling dynamics of the 718 CS as I have specced it, and to extract maximum performance from the car. Sport Plus mode selected on the steering wheel dial, and manual gear shifting via the paddles were used throughout the test. The PSM button also selected to Sport mode with minimal intervention.

The 718 CS takes to the track like a duck to water. The combination of revised progressive rate springs, -20mm lowered adaptive dampening, thicker anti-roll bars, stiffer rear subframe, GT4 rear control arms, wider track, torque vectoring with LSD, quicker steering rack, bigger brakes, and dynamic engine mounts, all work together in concert to make the 718 CS a formidable track performer. It has more grip, more power, better high-speed braking, and to my surprise, displays the same levels of "playfulness" through the medium and high speed corners has I had enjoyed with my CR on this undulating and technical track. Acceleration out of low speed corners and at the hairpin was particularly impressive. Absolutely no turbo lag being apparent whatsoever. The gearing of the new PDK on the 718 CS is slightly shorter than on the manual, and this ideally suited the short 1.6 mile Knockhill circuit perfectly. Lap time comparisons between the two cars showed the 718 CS PDK to be 2 to 3 seconds a lap faster than my CR manual......and this is on a short track. Considering that my CR had Cup 2 tyres fitted, compared to the P-Zero N1 on the 718 CS, this is an especially impressive performance. Whilst on the subject of P-Zeros, I discovered that the new N1 Pirellis faded after two hot laps. They gripped well for a start, then after the second hot lap became inconsistent and slidey. The chassis of the 718 CS works the tyres very hard on a hot lap and the P-Zeros just can't hack it. It would interesting to see how the new Michelin PS4S perform by comparison.

Question, is the 718 CS PDK as much fun to drive on the track as the CR manual? In my experience from yesterday, ABSOLUTELY! It has the same playfulness and drivability as the CR when pressing on through the corners. In fact I would say the 718 is even more playful, with the slightly longer wheelbase giving the driver a better feel for what is happening at the rear end, and with a grippier front end to hook into the corners. In my opinion, the humble "S" version of the Cayman, when specced appropriately, sets a new incredibly high bar for dynamic capability on a mainstream Porsche. If this is how the 718 CS is, expect the forthcoming 718 GTS and 718 GT4 to be astonishing performers. Finally, Rory Butcher had a couple of hot laps driving my car at the end of the session, he was 2 seconds faster than me after only two laps! His verdict? "Brilliant! I like it!. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Brian

 
Very good, Brian. I'm not surprised. You are obviously a good, quick driver and have spec'd your car wisely considering your preferences. I like Pirellis on the road but agree that Michelins tend to be better - sounds like your car would be even better with a tyre swap when the time is right.

 
Nice write up Brian. The PDK will also be part of the difference in the quicker lap time. I saw something similar with mine. At Zandvoort (quite a long lap) I managed a six second improvement in my CR over my old 964! Part of it down to the modern chassis and part to the PDK. That was in manual mode and I then improved it a further two seconds by using full auto with Sport plus! The car is clearly a better driver than me! (but I prefer to us the manual mode for more interaction...even though I'm slower that way).

 
Great write-up Brian. Really pleased the new car has met your expectations. See you Sunday for the run with Porsche Ireland.

 
Following on from my recent Knockhill test, I had been hoping to fit Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres to replace the factory fitted Pirelli P-Zeros which are not to my liking.

I have just received confirmation from Michelin that the N-rated PS4S in 20" sizes for the 718 CS have now been delayed until September 2017. This is unfortunate, as I was hoping to have these tyres fitted before the Anglesey and Knockhill track days.

I suspect Porsche are reviewing the 265 tyre width section on the rear as the current N-rated Pirellis are overstretched on the optional 10.5" Carrera Sport alloys. See photo below.

Michelin have confirmed to me that the 265 section is at the maximum safe tolerance for 10.5" rims and that a 275 section would be more applicable. However, these options are not yet available in N-rated PS4S Michelins.

With my new car is still being under warranty, I am not fitting non-N rated tyres to my car at this stage.

Brian



 
Anglesey track day was absolutely superb. I met Kevin and Chris W, and we had a good chat on Cayman topics. My 718 CS was the only model of that type present at Anglesey. My car was also the only 718 Cayman present out of 581 cars at the Llandudno Porsches on the Prom event the next day.

I had several passengers sit with me for a few laps. All seemed impressed with the track performance of the 718 CS PDK as I have specced it. It is noticeably faster than my previous Cup 2 shod CR around Anglesey. The extra grip, improved handling poise on the fast corners, more power and better brakes, make this car an absolute joy to drive quickly......even on the factory P Zeros. The new PDK worked extremely well on the Angelsey International track with the gearing being particularly well suited. The punch out of the slow corners was noticeably quicker than the CR manual, and my car is just as playful and adjustable on the throttle the way I have set it up.

The highlight of my day was sitting with Chris W for a few hot laps in his modified Yellow GT4. Wow! Chris absolutely nailed it around Anglesey. Over more decades than I care to recount, I have been lucky enough to have been chauffeured around race tracks by some of the best professional racers in some very quick GT Porsches. Chris W on the basis of that particular demonstration last Saturday, is right up there with the best of them. I was very impressed with CW's high speed car control, and also the modifications to the suspension on his GT4 worked impressively well. CW's yellow GT4 absolutely flies, it was the fastest car on the track by a considerable margin during those laps. Mega!

Knockhill on June 24th is next on the PCGB track day calendar. Be good to see a few southerners venture north to give it a try. You will not be disappointed with the track.

Hope to see you there.

Brian

 
I bet the CS Manthey sus setup has transformed Chris car by a BIG margin. HE also has the balls to take that car to it's limits which helps lol.

He has more than doubled his camber and got trick 3 way shocks on it :)

 
Chris' car seems to be sucked into the tarmac, we had an unplanned outing to the local ATS to remove a screwdriver bit from a tyre and Chris' car was stunning on the undulating roads with broken surfaces - superb!

 
The Manthey KW mod on CW's car provides an absolutely stunning track performance. I had already experienced quick laps at Knockhill in a GT4 but CW was on a different level.

As you say David, Chris has the both ability and the balls to make the most of this modification. Power and grip is nothing without control. Hats off to him.

I shall never, ever forget those GT4 Angelsey laps.

Update on my 718 CS replacement tyres saga to follow......

Brian

 
Brian,

interesting chat with an industry "insider" regarding the PS4S vs SS - drop me a pm and I'll fill you in, I called the guy as I was shocked at the amount of shoulder wear to my NSF tyre following Anglesey - I have lots of experience with similar geo cars (964RSs running -1.0deg fr) and PS2 + R888 @ Angle and never had this problem....

cheers,

kevin

 
Well ... I'm late to this party and now rather humbled by your comments.

If you had seen Mr Slow at Oulton Park racing the previous weekend .... :) ?? The Club racers are really fast.

But I do adore the GT4 and certainly it's no hardship to lean on ... and lean and lean and lean ... so thanks all for being willing victims in the passenger seat. I'd like to think that it's fun --- but on a serious note I hope it also helps to lift some of those mind game barriers that we all struggle to drive through.

I'll post a few interesting pics when I catch us ... the geo setting is -3 at the front and -2.5 at the back ... and the original PCCB's came off today and I'm now bedding in the new Surface Transform carbon discs.

Happy days, new adventures ... :)

 
kasbridge said:
Brian,

interesting chat with an industry "insider" regarding the PS4S vs SS - drop me a pm and I'll fill you in, I called the guy as I was shocked at the amount of shoulder wear to my NSF tyre following Anglesey - I have lots of experience with similar geo cars (964RSs running -1.0deg fr) and PS2 + R888 @ Angle and never had this problem....

cheers,

kevin

Anglesey is notorious for this ... and you were driving quickly ... !!

The standard GT4 max camber is probably less than the CR, but the revised suspension of the GT4 does appear to reduce the roll at similar speeds. Of course I'm now running much more camber --- but still saw some shoulder wear though on a tyre that had been used at Spa and Zandvoordt before the modifications.

 
Brian, it was my pleasure :)

For info the cars said that we pulled 1.49g on the LHS, 1.45 on the right, 1.44 under braking and .75 in acceleration ...

I find it hard to believe the numbers ...

 
BJ Innes said:
The highlight of my day was sitting with Chris W for a few hot laps in his modified Yellow GT4. Wow! Chris absolutely nailed it around Anglesey. Over more decades than I care to recount, I have been lucky enough to have been chauffeured around race tracks by some of the best professional racers in some very quick GT Porsches. Chris W on the basis of that particular demonstration last Saturday, is right up there with the best of them. I was very impressed with CW's high speed car control, and also the modifications to the suspension on his GT4 worked impressively well. CW's yellow GT4 absolutely flies, it was the fastest car on the track by a considerable margin during those laps. Mega!

Yes indeed, Chris is very good behind the wheel. Have now enjoyed many passenger rides with him. Both his previous R and the current GT4 fairly hurtle round a track. I still have a soft spot for his old 964RS ngt....a truly visceral experience. However, I would advise those of a nervous disposition to perhaps close their eyes in the braking zones when sitting alongside Chris. :ROFLMAO:

 
Yes Steve, as an old racer, I was in my element. A joy to watch Chris nailing it at Angelsey.

My 718 CS PDK goes ok on the track also. I have a few passenger rides already committed with me at Knockhill, a track I know well. I'll take some G-Force readings for interest. Knockhill is good on the G's.

Brian



 
My Photobucket account now appears to have locked access to my images ... asking for a modest subscription.

In fairness, after four advertisements a week for six months I did ask them to stop sending the ads ... !

Is the best solution now just to pay up ??

 
On the topic of tyres, it looks like I'm stuck with the P Zeros for now unfortunately. There are things on-going behind the scenes at Michelin and Porsche regarding tyres for the 718 20" alloys. Apparently there are issues with the PS4S which require further evaluation by Porsche so availability has been delayed until September.

Ideally I would fit Cup 2's, but they don't come in the stock 20" sizes for the 718. Cup 2's are available in 245 x 35 x 20 fronts, but may have suspension strut clearance issues and require spacers which I'm not prepared to do at this time. Cup 2 265 x 35 x 20 are available for the rears ok, although ideally a 285 section rear would be more appropriate on the wider 10.5" alloys.

Seems like I'm stymied due to my car being new and under manufacturers warranty. I'm not prepared to spend £4k on a spare set of 20" alloys for 2 or 3 track days a year.

The P Zeros will have to do for the Knockhill track day in a couple of weeks. They're not the best for the job by any means, but I'll still enjoy my day. The 718 is very playful.

On fuel consumption, on my recent 1700 mile 3 Kingdoms tour I saw 32.8 mpg on motorway miles. I cannot approach that figure on my home roads. The average mpg for 5700 miles covered so far is 27.7mpg.

Brian



 

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