market turned ?
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jason
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Its Matts old car I think.
Paul usually puts all original panels and paint if it is so maybe its not? Worth checking.
Think the market is still generally flat this year to be honest and the euro down 15% on earlier in the year not helping euro sales.
We are still in a significant recession which is going to get worse before better and I honestly think there are fewer people splashing out on expensive toys. That said there are still plenty of very wealthy ones out there!
Paul usually puts all original panels and paint if it is so maybe its not? Worth checking.
Think the market is still generally flat this year to be honest and the euro down 15% on earlier in the year not helping euro sales.
We are still in a significant recession which is going to get worse before better and I honestly think there are fewer people splashing out on expensive toys. That said there are still plenty of very wealthy ones out there!
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] I think it's interesting to see how values have increased.
It's not so long ago that the price would have been low £40's --- and I do love Des' line.
There are NO virgins in the bordello. This car has a roll cage .... but I know it's had money spent whenever and wherever required, and it's powerful []
] I think it's interesting to see how values have increased.It's not so long ago that the price would have been low £40's --- and I do love Des' line.
There are NO virgins in the bordello. This car has a roll cage .... but I know it's had money spent whenever and wherever required, and it's powerful [
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964rsdatabase
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Well spotted. It is the same car. []
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Yes indeed it is well spotted ..... []
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jason
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Where the final negotiation ended on what Chris?
I simply said Matt's car looked extremely good value against what is now on offer at SCOM and that's where my money would have been had I been in the market?
There is no doubting SCOM sell their cars, usually at £10k more than identical ones elsewhere, which led me to my comment they have a customer base of deep pockets.
Seems pretty straightforward to me?
I simply said Matt's car looked extremely good value against what is now on offer at SCOM and that's where my money would have been had I been in the market?
There is no doubting SCOM sell their cars, usually at £10k more than identical ones elsewhere, which led me to my comment they have a customer base of deep pockets.
Seems pretty straightforward to me?
oldtimer
PCGB Member
I prefer the good old days of 2000-2002 when that silver car would have fetched less than half the current asking price.
The only upside of todays 964RS prices is the capital gain if you are selling a car that you have owned for at least 2 years , but you then have the problem of what to replace it with if you want to continue enjoying the raw 911 driving experience.
Speaking as someone who buys Porsches with a view to driving them mainly on circuits - trackdays not racing - the £25000 964RS 'as was' seemed to be the 'sweet spot' for learning how to drive 911s quickly without being helped too much by electronics or scared too much by chassis misbehaviour.
IMHO tracking the £50-75000 964RS is a different proposition.....so is the £80-120000 993RS !!
Todays used car alternatives to the 964RS for circuit driving seem to be the early GT3's for £30-35000 or the early 911/SC based 911RS replicas for £20-25000. You would need to be a bit careful with the latter as there are quite an assortment of 'bitzas' out there of varying build quality , at least GT3s were built for purpose by the factory !
The only upside of todays 964RS prices is the capital gain if you are selling a car that you have owned for at least 2 years , but you then have the problem of what to replace it with if you want to continue enjoying the raw 911 driving experience.
Speaking as someone who buys Porsches with a view to driving them mainly on circuits - trackdays not racing - the £25000 964RS 'as was' seemed to be the 'sweet spot' for learning how to drive 911s quickly without being helped too much by electronics or scared too much by chassis misbehaviour.
IMHO tracking the £50-75000 964RS is a different proposition.....so is the £80-120000 993RS !!
Todays used car alternatives to the 964RS for circuit driving seem to be the early GT3's for £30-35000 or the early 911/SC based 911RS replicas for £20-25000. You would need to be a bit careful with the latter as there are quite an assortment of 'bitzas' out there of varying build quality , at least GT3s were built for purpose by the factory !
jason
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Well said John, totally agree mate.
Its inevitable when any particular car is given glorified status in mags that prices will rise and people will sit on them and they become investments rather than what they were intended for. I've done ok financially out of the cars i bought but like you do think that its a shame there will be a whole list of cars I'd like to have had and experienced properly that simply wont happen now because of the cost of purchase and replacement. Really want to reduce my garage to cars I can drive hard and not worry about what happens to them or what they may or may not be worth.
Would still like to try a mark 1 GT3RS long term...maybe i should take Ollie out and get him drunk[]
Its inevitable when any particular car is given glorified status in mags that prices will rise and people will sit on them and they become investments rather than what they were intended for. I've done ok financially out of the cars i bought but like you do think that its a shame there will be a whole list of cars I'd like to have had and experienced properly that simply wont happen now because of the cost of purchase and replacement. Really want to reduce my garage to cars I can drive hard and not worry about what happens to them or what they may or may not be worth.
Would still like to try a mark 1 GT3RS long term...maybe i should take Ollie out and get him drunk[
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The 964RS long term index is invevitably on the up with peaks and throughs but the trend is certainly upwards.
This is just not sentimental hype, this is purely based on the raw and simple driving experience of this the perfect 911.
This is just not sentimental hype, this is purely based on the raw and simple driving experience of this the perfect 911.
Sold ..... but good cars will always find their level .... the 64RS is still one of the best buys out there
Might go and have a nose at that - it's in my parents' village and I'm up there for a wedding next weekend. Can't imagine it will have sold by then ..........
Jamie
Jamie
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