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George Elliott

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The 991 GT3 is now Launched.
In the current Porsche sports car Model range it is the pinnacle, the product aimed at what we used to call; the 5% discerning Customer.
The most knowledgeable, particular, observant, loyal.....
The RS lightweight, (followed by the GT, Club Sport (and possibly turbo)) models have represented the cutting edge of the ultimate German Sports Car Company product offerings down the years.

I wonder what your thoughts are on the latest offering, I've listed some rating points if you wish to use them

....Everyday use-ability?
General Public Acceptability
MPG & Running Cost
Comfort
Reliability

....Driving Experience?
Burst-ability
Weight
Controls Tactility
Driving Involvement
Driving Reward
Noise

...Specialness?
Overall appearance
Craftsmanship
Cabin ambience
Unique components (e.g thin glass)
Trim feel
Trim Material & Colour
Paint Depth
Paint Colour range
Ignition Key feel
Un-sprung weight
How much does it make you smile?


How much do you want one?

Don't worry if you have not driven one, I had a view on all this before I had an RS and when I drove it, I was not disappointed

George
Porsche enthusiast



 
I've owned a 997 GT3, a 997 Gen 2 RS and race a 993 RSR. IMHO a GT3 of any type merits 8.5 out of 10. I think the answer to your question is given Andreas Prumminger the Porsche Engineer when he says " Nobody needs a GT3, but most people want one "
 
Only 8.5....hmmm
Interesting observation Major, especially since you also race.

Do you think Andreas will go down in history as a creator of the Great Porsches of their day?

Thanks
George

 
Depends what you want out of a car.

I understand how and why they have evolved into a "GT" car and that they represent value at their price point.

However, I don't want or need one.

Far too heavy and luxurious, I am left with the impression that I would lose my licence very quickly getting the best out of it on the road.

I enjoy the heritage of the air cooled RS and the fact you can enjoy it at lower speeds, yet it can hold it's own on track when required.

It wouldn't surprise me that others on here concur? [;)]
 

ORIGINAL: clubsport

However, I don't want or need one.

Far too heavy and luxurious, I am left with the impression that I would lose my licence very quickly getting the best out of it on the road.

I enjoy the heritage of the air cooled RS (Cup) and the fact you can enjoy it at lower speeds, yet it can hold it's own on track when required.
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They are becoming large and heavy.

This is why I personally am so interested in the forecast specification of the new Cayman GT4 ....

For me bomb proof reliability is what gives me the freedom to press-on, so I wonder if P will go back to dry-sump ?

And the centre lock wheels have been criticised and electric PAS is not so feelsome and no manual gearbox upsets some and --- I am talking myself back into a 964RS [;)]
 

ORIGINAL: tscaptain


ORIGINAL: ChrisW
so I wonder if P will go back to dry-sump ?
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http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-gt3/drive/dry-sump-lubrication/

[;)]
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Thanks for correcting me ... so this is now different from the Turbo 9A1 (?) engine ??

Maybe should do my own homework [;)]


 
Just checked and there appear to be some very recent updates on the Porsche site regarding this subject --- integrated dry sump.

Is this a hybrid wet sump / dry sump system or is it a fully pressurised recycling system ?

But the site is now unavailable so .. ?

Now answered, the GT3 engine appears to be the only fully dry-sumped engine now in the range --- the integrated dry sump being a wet sump system with an on-demand electric pump to play catch-up if the oil surge is too much.

The other big advantage of DrySump is a lower centre of gravity because effectively there is no need for a gravity assisted oil reservoir, hence the whole engine can sit lower in the chassis .. plus superior cooling and proper oil cycling ...

 
Sad day when porsche differentiated the road cars. All 3.2s etc were dry sumped, all worked well on track out of the box. Now you need to buy the right model I still think that the gt3 is what the base 911 should be.
 
Gents, thx for the "Integrated dry sump / wet sump with elec aux oil pump & tank" information.

Wonder what Ferdinand would have thought of 4 Scavenge pumps in each engine [8|], with associated cost, weight, bulk.

Reads to me like the engine has had a bit of a rework from its original specification in this area, the Original pre - recall unit had no Dry element?

Its encouraging though, because it acknowledges the superiority of DS and the original, simple, compact, effective, reliable approach as per the old bomb-proof 3.2

George


 
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