Iced windows seals

[skyhighsi]

Hi. Every time the frosty nights arrive, my window seals ice up which puts tremendous strain on the window motors when (trying) to open the doors.
Originally I tried to use an old credit card all along but this was not enough, so I have resorted to the old partially boiled kettle trick to release the icy grip.
Does any have any tips on how to resolve this, what I think, is a design flaw?
Cheers

 

[skyhighsi]

Badly written last sentence, sorry. It should read....

Does anyone have any tips on how to resolve this, what I consider to be, design flaw?

 

[AngieS]

Suggest not using hot water. Demon ice melt spray also acts as a deterrent to ice forming if done previous evening. Another thread suggests something for rubber seal to assist antifreezing.

 

[alan718]

+1 for not using boiling water.

I have a hazy memory from days long ago when I owned a Skoda Octavia Vrs (forgive me!) that this topic came up frequently on their forums as their door seals were fairly soft (like the Porsche) on the early models and froze in cold weather.

If I recollect correctly the opinion was that if moisture is getting between the window and the seal that the seals could be on the way out. In that case some Vaseline smeared on thinly on the seals my help prevent the problem. BUT (and its a big BUT) Vaseline will eventually rot rubber door seals. To avoid that the alternative was to use a silicone based spray (available from Halfords). However that might not work if the seals are already degraded to the extent that they are letting moisture penetrate the gap between window and the seal.

Hope that helps.

 

[stephentodd]

Suggest you use some gummipflege on the window seals, this is a silicone treatment for rubber seals. I use this on my door seals on my Boxster and Macan.

Sonax Rubber Protectant Care Stick gummipfleger 100ml | eBay

Extends working life of the rubber and freshens up the colours. During winter it also prevents the rubber seals on doors, windows and boot lids from sticking,cracking. With products ranging from waxes and polishes to carpet and upholstery and all things inbetween.

www.ebay.co.uk

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[skyhighsi]

Superb. Thank you for your advice...I will great straight onto it. If it doesn't work, I'm moving somewhere hot.

 

[911hillclimber]

Just bought some of that to cure my Boxster’s similar problem.
Waiting for it to arrive from eBay, about £9

 

[JMR]

Yep I have used 1Z Gummiflege for years.
Great little product, and keeps rubbers nice and supple.

 

[AngieS]

Old dog new tricks… not even heard of gummibear before now so I’ve just got some to cater for my Z3 rubbers. I found Würth do same. For what it’s worth they also do an excellent corrosion prevention spray I use extensively. It’s light so doesn’t leave mess. Used in Marine trade.

 

[skyhighsi]

Bought another brands silicone product today and have applied it to drivers side rubbers.
Minus 7 last night left my door well and truly stuck. 30 mins with hairdryer around window perimeter did little. Even the handle and lock were frozen today.
Managed to open the door but, again, window stuck would not drop on opening. Now, the motor seems confused and it drops on opening the handle but as soon as you release the handle, it goes up again with door now open. The worst offenders seem to the the outer and inner (possible) seal at the base of the window as well as the short part above the side mirror.
All this happened underneath my full car cover.

Found new seals at design911. As expensive as a bit of rubber could be. Let's see if the silicone helps first.

 

[Scrounger]

If it's anything like my Cayman, it's the seal on the door that touches the window which is causing the issue not the door seal itself. It may be worth spraying some deicer along the window seal and allow it to dwell for a couple of minutes before opening the door.

Dan

 

[Motorhead]

Taking up Dan’s comment, you could try applying your rubber lubricant to the inner edge of the window seal as well as the door seal. Belt and braces!

Jeff

 

[Scrounger]

Good shout Jeff

Dan

 

[skyhighsi]

Taking up Dan’s comment, you could try applying your rubber lubricant to the inner edge of the window seal as well as the door seal. Belt and braces!

Jeff

Did that this morning. Let's see what tonight brings.

 

[Motorhead]

Interested to know how you get on. Although my 987.2 CS sits in the garage this will be my first winter with the GR Yaris which also has frameless windows and sits outside. I’m awaiting delivery of the Sonax stuff so that I can apply it to the door and window seals to see if that helps.

Jeff

 

[911hillclimber]

Remember to do both doors as on my Boxster both glasses drop simultaneously.

 

[skyhighsi]

Remember to do both doors as on my Boxster both glasses drop simultaneously.

Trying to wait to do the passenger once it's warmer.

 

[skyhighsi]

Took my car in to get the problem repaired. Diagnostics indicated that the lock mechanism was the issue. That has now been replaced and all is back to normal.

Whilst the window sticking in the up position was 1 problem, either the lock froze separately and caused the fault or the stuck window caused the fault in the lock....maybe I'll never know.

 

[skyhighsi]

Took my car in to get the problem repaired. Diagnostics indicated that the lock mechanism was the issue. That has now been replaced and all is back to normal.

Whilst the window sticking in the up position was 1 problem, either the lock froze separately and caused the fault or the stuck window caused the fault in the lock....maybe I'll never know.

 

[skyhighsi]

Took my car in to get the problem repaired. Diagnostics indicated that the lock mechanism was the issue. That has now been replaced and all is back to normal.

Whilst the window sticking in the up position was 1 problem, either the lock froze separately and caused the fault or the stuck window caused the fault in the lock....maybe I'll never know.