How often do you use your SPORT button

[Guest]

I always have the SPORT button illuminated but have the Suspension set to Normal

 

[Sunil]

Ditto unless I'm in stop start traffic.

 

[Alex L]

I myself rarely use the sport button now that I disconnected it from controlling my PSE. It all depends on how aggressively I'm driving at the time and what the roads are like (quiet/busy/town/country).

I somehow prefer the additional right-foot 'control' of normal mode though. I tend to use the brakes a lot more in Sport Mode. In normal mode you can "˜ease off' much more smoothly.

If I was on a track of course I would have it always on (probably with PASM in Normal unless the track was VERY flat).

 

[m33Porsche]

Never yet - I remember from E46 M3 days that it tends to make the throtttle electric and I'm a bit worried about kangaroo'ing like a BSM rookie.

Also a bit concerned with the harder ride shaking me and the car to bits.

I probably will pluck up enough but am also slightly concerned as I remember from the M3 that once you've sampled the devil button it's hard to return to a "normal" driving style.

m33porsche

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: m33Porsche
Also a bit concerned with the harder ride shaking me and the car to bits.

Oh on the public roads I find Sports PASM way too hard!!

The first thing always I do after hitting the Sport button is to push the PASM button so that it goes back to normal.

I think most people do this unless they are on a smooth track...

 

[m33Porsche]

Now that's interesting. I don't have sport chrono so only have the option of switching PASM to the sport setting to engage sport mode - don't think I can then soften the suspension??

m33porsche

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: m33Porsche

Now that's interesting. I don't have sport chrono so only have the option of switching PASM to the sport setting to engage sport mode - don't think I can then soften the suspension??

m33porsche

So you don't have a sport button then. You only have PASM sport vs normal to choose. The benefits of putting PASM in sport mode are very limited for the public roads as it really is very stiff - which is why most people turn it straight off when engaging their sport button.

Having a sport button does 3 general things (that I am aware of):

1) It automatically put's PASM into its sport mode which is much stiffer "" same as pushing the PASM button manually.
2) It makes the throttle response quicker
3) It waters down the traction control

I'm afraid unless you have a sport button then you don't get the benefits of the last 2.

This is what Porsche have to say about sports chrono:

When "˜Sport' mode is selected, the engine management system applies a new set of variables to enhance the engine response. A modified throttle map relates the pedal angle in the footwell to a much wider angle of opening in the throttle. As a result, the engine has a much more positive reaction to every pedal input. In the higher gears, a hard rev-limiter helps protect the engine under acceleration.[/i]
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While this is happening, PASM (standard on the S and 4S models, optional on all others) is also switching to "˜Sport' mode. The dampers become firmer, enabling faster turn-in as well as better road-holding and traction.[/i]
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On vehicles with Tiptronic S, the automatic gearshifts become faster and more dynamic. Lift off the throttle "" even at high revs "" and the system immediately shifts down to apply engine braking. There are no unwanted upshifts in manual mode when approaching the engine rev limit. Since the driver has full control over every upshift, the handling of the car is much more secure, particularly when braking for a corner.[/i]
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To minimise assistance from PSM, the trigger threshold for this system is raised. The result is a more natural and involving response to lateral and longitudinal forces. Agility is enhanced under braking for a corner, with PSM enabling greater manoeuvrability when turning in and greater stability on the exit "" particularly in lower-speed sequences and bends.[/i]
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For maximum dexterity, PSM can be set to standby while the car is still in "˜Sport' mode. PSM simply monitors the forces acting on the car and will only intervene in the most critical scenarios, e.g., when ABS assistance is required on both front brakes.[/i]

 

[m33Porsche]

Alex L

thanks for clarifying - must have got the wrong end of the stick when the dealer did the hand over.

just on my way down to halfords to buy an aftermarket sport button - don't want to feel under endowed

m33porsche

 

[Alex L]

[] I tried to do the same thing with a separate PSE button!

 

[YvesD]

In terms of the engine map, of course its academic. The human brain is way, way more sophisticated and clever than any man made software ( it must be to have created it in the first place ) and very quickly recalibrates to subtle differences in throttle pedal travel, clutch engagement etc.

The damper response is very different however and the jiggly ( uncomfortable ? ) ride is just not worth diverting the grey matter's computing power to justifying on a day to day basis.

The ability to choose between the two can only be a good thing though.

Having owned both, the difference between 'normal' and 'sport' on the M3 & 997 is night and day, the former being much more agggressive and perhaps more rewarding for it.

Yves

 

[Guest]

I tried to do the same thing with a separate PSE button!

Is that the work of Photoshop, or do you actually have the extra button?

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: dwhatley

I tried to do the same thing with a separate PSE button!

Is that the work of Photoshop, or do you actually have the extra button?

Unfortunately it's a 2 min Photoshop job. I did it to show my OPC what I wanted to be fitted when I had my Tequipment PSE installed.

However, you can't actually have 4 buttons on the left side so it wasn't possible. I therefore just hacked my vacuum valve to keep PSE opened up permanently as an alternative"¦