delboy1974del
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Whats the thoughts on this ?
Hid kit on my 944 ? yes or no ?
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delboy1974del
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is there a law against them ?
i wasnt aware of that
i know its been talked about coming in but not in force just now
i wasnt aware of that
i know its been talked about coming in but not in force just now
delboy1974del
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H4-BI-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-PORSCHE-928-944-82-92-/280638213429?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4157574d35
this is them
this is them
craig2105
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As far as your wiring goes, HID kits usually draw less power than standard bulbs so no worries there.
I fitted a kit to my 993 which transformed night driving. I had no problems at MOT time and the new owner hasn't mentioned any problems either. I believe there is something in the MOT regs but most testers don't seem to be fussed about it if the lenses are properly adjusted.
I will be fitting them on my 968 daily driver ready for the winter. If there is an issue at some point, it's an easily reversible mod.
I fitted a kit to my 993 which transformed night driving. I had no problems at MOT time and the new owner hasn't mentioned any problems either. I believe there is something in the MOT regs but most testers don't seem to be fussed about it if the lenses are properly adjusted.
I will be fitting them on my 968 daily driver ready for the winter. If there is an issue at some point, it's an easily reversible mod.
robwright
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If you want to be completely legal then you would have to change the lenses as well. If you search hard enough on here you will find the threads concerning it. I think one has a link to the DVLA legislation. The point about the wiring is that most 944s suffer from poor lighting due to 20 year old knackered wiring. An overhaul of your wiring can in most cases make a dramatic difference to the headlights. Mine is in good order and the headlights are perfectly adequate. It might be worth checking exactly how many of your 12V are actually getting to the headlight bulbs. Easily done with a multimeter [
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944 man
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Most threads on HID conversion are full of rubbish. The bottom line is that they wont be legal no matter what, because theyre illegal under British law; but legal in type approved cars as Euro law trumps national law. This means that unless your fitment is type-approved, then HIDs wont be legal on your vehicle.
Changing the lenses wont help as its the reflectors / the arc position thats wrong. Using lamps designed for HID bulbs and using proper HIDs, not H4 conversions would make them work properly, but thats not an option for us. The DoT site witters on about washers and self levelling and its this drivel that people frequently argue about, but the site has an 'our opinion' disclaimer on it and its a pretty ill-informed opinion at that (for example; there are cars type approved which do not have self levelling lamps or suspension and more importantly, only type approved fitments can be legal)...
For my part: Ive been dazzled by far more cars with OEM HID lamps than I have by aftermarket conversions and if you keep to a white colour temperature, and adjust your beam correctly, then you wont draw attention to yourself unduly.
Of course, when their use/fitment becomes a three point £60 fixed penalty opportunity, then people will be stopped constantly; but at present theres only talk of MOT enforcement.....
Changing the lenses wont help as its the reflectors / the arc position thats wrong. Using lamps designed for HID bulbs and using proper HIDs, not H4 conversions would make them work properly, but thats not an option for us. The DoT site witters on about washers and self levelling and its this drivel that people frequently argue about, but the site has an 'our opinion' disclaimer on it and its a pretty ill-informed opinion at that (for example; there are cars type approved which do not have self levelling lamps or suspension and more importantly, only type approved fitments can be legal)...
For my part: Ive been dazzled by far more cars with OEM HID lamps than I have by aftermarket conversions and if you keep to a white colour temperature, and adjust your beam correctly, then you wont draw attention to yourself unduly.
Of course, when their use/fitment becomes a three point £60 fixed penalty opportunity, then people will be stopped constantly; but at present theres only talk of MOT enforcement.....
Suffolk944
Moderator
Just fixing some higer performace standard bulbs can make a substantial difference.Also worth remembering that the headlights get very dirty when in the lowered position from all the muck thrown up from the road so a regular clean of the glass can work wonders too...
Exactly right on both points. But bear in mind that those higher-power bulbs are also illegal. And if you fit them, you need to fit some better wiring to them as the current (see what I did there?) wiring is likely to be pretty old and tired, and won't cope with the extra current drawn by the beefier bulbs.
An easy and cheap option is to fit new new wires from the battery to the headlights (or from the battery terminal post in the back of the engine bay in later cars), and some relays to switch the headlights on and off. The relays can be triggered by the existing headlight wiring. This gives you good wiring to the headlights, so less juice lost on the way, and will thus make a noticeable difference to the quality of the lights without changing the bulbs. You can then also fit bigger bulbs if you want to, as the new wiring will be suitable for them.
You can do all this for less than £20 and it significantly improves night driving.
Oli.
david924s
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I replaced the standard H4s in my S2 with Osram or Phillips (can't remember) Nightbreaker lamps still retaining the normal 55/60W configuration so no more power drawn and the difference was huge I can now see the light profile on the road even in urban lighting which I could never do before and from memory they cost around £17 a pair and simply fit in place of the originals. Might be worth a try before spending on HIDs and also as mentioned worth making sure the lenses are clean and not too badly marked.
Suffolk944
Moderator
Yes these were the bulbs I was thinking of and I had on my previous 944 - are these illegal too ? The difference they made was remarkable, must do the same for the current one.
I think that, in the case of incandescent bulbs, if they are 55/60 (so 55 watts - or less - on dip, and 60 watts - or less - on main beam), they are OK.
Fitting some nice fat 100/120's in the front of your S2 would, of course, fall foul of that law. >WhistlesNonchelantly< But you do need to beef up the wiring to do this.
What was your previous 944 Jon? I assumed the turbo was your first.
Oli.
Fitting some nice fat 100/120's in the front of your S2 would, of course, fall foul of that law. >WhistlesNonchelantly< But you do need to beef up the wiring to do this.
What was your previous 944 Jon? I assumed the turbo was your first.
Oli.
Suffolk944
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I had a very early 220 Turbo (registered 1985). Rav here on the forum now owns it. Still really miss it, it felt very different from my current car.
Clean the earths and the lenses and fit the best (Phillips, Osram etc) premium bulbs of standard legal rating, works for me!
When fitting them to the 2.7 discovered the n/s light was pointing very right, no amount of adjustment would sort it so left it.
Last night washed car and headlights and noticed the plastic headlight mounting frame was fitted on the outside of the outside metal frame and
on the INSIDE of the inner one!
Lights are pointing in the right direction now.
When fitting them to the 2.7 discovered the n/s light was pointing very right, no amount of adjustment would sort it so left it.
Last night washed car and headlights and noticed the plastic headlight mounting frame was fitted on the outside of the outside metal frame and
on the INSIDE of the inner one!
Lights are pointing in the right direction now.
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