Heads up: Cross-over coolant pipe kit!

[911hillclimber]

Just to advise, at the moment there are no kits available for the Boxster cross-over coolant pipe kit from Porsche of Design911 etc., and no advise on when supplies will be available....
Might have to go to France in the Skoda, not the Boxster.

 

[Motorhead]

Can’t you get the components from a Porsche dealer Graham? You’ll get the 10% Club discount, and actually they could be cheaper than Design911.

Jeff

 

[911hillclimber]

Seems the OPC's don't have the stock to make up the full kit.
I think the Design911 kit of parts is the same as the OPC kit, Porsche supply the lot it seems.

2 weeks ago Des911 showed stock of their kits, should have bought one!

 

[malarcy]

Do spyder performance have any - may be the same problem or may be they aren’t genuine but it’s another option to check.

Also. Rose passion in France. They ship to uk - maybe they have stock. ?

 

[911hillclimber]

Good calls, thank you.
I doubt these parts are replicated as they are so complicated, but maybe some have found the OEM for supply with Porsche's blessing?

 

[911hillclimber]

Spyder also out of stock, nothing on Rose Passion that I can spot....

 

[ianthow]

Speak to OPC, 987/997 qualify for Porsche Classic discount if you have registered with them.

 

[Motorhead]

Spyder Performance are advertising this set for a 987.2 as being in stock, but it looks different from that in the Design911 kit. The aluminium feed and return pipes are genuine Porsche parts, with the hoses and sleeves being SP parts.

Porsche 997 / 987 Gen1/2 Front Coolant Hose & Pipe Set Porsche Car Parts - Spyder Performance

Porsche 997 / 987 Gen1/2 Front Coolant Hose & Pipe Set - Spyder Performance

www.spyderperformance.com

Jeff

 

[911hillclimber]

Interesting, thank you.
Will take a closer look as the 'full' kit was £480 + vat, and this kit is a lot less, so less parts?
Will take another look.

I'll speak to Zuffenhaus and see what they thing too.

 

[911hillclimber]

Bit spooky, but the Porsche kit arrived at Zuffenhaus this morning...!
Thus the car is going in this Friday and out next Monday afternoon when they can check the suspension geo etc. Proper job.
This gives me good time/miles to run the car and check for leaks before the French trip, and no 'Bee-in-my-Bonnet'.

A plan that has worked!!

 

[ianthow]

Interesting, thank you.
Will take a closer look as the 'full' kit was £480 + vat, and this kit is a lot less, so less parts?
Will take another look.

I'll speak to Zuffenhaus and see what they thing too.

The Spyder Performance kit has all the parts you need to replace the cross pipes. This link, https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/threads/987-service-guide.212364/, has several pdf attachments, one describes crossover pipe replacement using just these parts. Page 12 shows the parts diagram. On this there is an item 12 for two short hoses with clips, I did not replace these (still holding at 15 years old).

 

[911hillclimber]

Understand, but...
Over the last few years I've managed to replace the flex hoses one by one but possibly with some damage to the plastic tubes that run down each side of the subframe. The hoses that had corroded were a pain to free off and too much working I think has damaged the sealing faces, but I changed the O rings of the new hoses to much fatter ones with a far higher compression on these plastic faces and have got away with it. I do not think they will survive another strip down, so changing the lot so all is 'factory'. Will last my years with the car.
It is a very poor design begging for galvanic corrosion of alum and steel bathed in dirty even salty water off the roads, and a good dose of heat too, all designed to go wrong about 3 years after the build.
I used to be a Design Director for several companies all making safety critical products (ie vehicle door locks) and we would fail every durability test with this cocktail of materials and environments.
Strikes me things have changed since my days.

I read your excellent thread on all this and was ready then in 2023 to do the job, but the system was leak free then. It has started to weep as pointed out to me at the last wheel-off service a month ago. Not sure my old body will survive the task.

 

[ianthow]

Aside from the front coolant pipes, the 987 is prone to seepage from small hoses at the lower front end of the engine. This is usually the result of corroded pipe clamps losing tension rather than a problem with the hoses themselves. See post https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/threads/small-leak.216092/#post-1321654 for more details. Although these do not drip when standing cold. On prolonged hot runs, it is possible to lose a significant amount of coolant.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

There seems to be a general lack of spares for Porsches across the board which I find pretty bad they make thousands of these cars with no back up for many spares.
It's the same for Macan front coil spring there are non in any country
Months waiting list for many spares it becomes an oversized paper weight.

 

[911hillclimber]

This has been the first time I've been delayed for parts for the car, but most of my needs have been consumables, brakes etc.
I have not been surprised by this 'outage'.
High value parts, high cost job so the Trade must be more frustrated than me.

I've 'lost' 4 weeks through this, good that the car is not a daily driver, I have a knock-out Skoda Superb for that!

It has all worked out in the end, but another example where Porsche are not on the ball.

Good job we have Design911 and suchlike, even though most of their supply must be from Porsche.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

God help anyone that needs front coil spring for a Macan I was told 3/6 months back order not good for an everyday car if later up this long.
I was extremely lucky getting mine the last set available from Europe
Apart from consumables I am finding parts a problem for Porsches especially anything metal related.

 

[malarcy]

This has been the first time I've been delayed for parts for the car, but most of my needs have been consumables, brakes etc.
I have not been surprised by this 'outage'.
High value parts, high cost job so the Trade must be more frustrated than me.

I've 'lost' 4 weeks through this, good that the car is not a daily driver, I have a knock-out Skoda Superb for that!

It has all worked out in the end, but another example where Porsche are not on the ball.

Good job we have Design911 and suchlike, even though most of their supply must be from Porsche.

Porsche GB have stopped supplying parts to D911 - they are buying them in from Holland mainly now - which is why a lot of things are on longer lead times ( D911 do have a habit of advertising stock that doesn't exist).

 

[malarcy]

Clouds and silver linings - I know someone who waited for 4 months for a high pressure fuel pump for his 987.2 probably about 18 months ago - when it eventually came into stock he had a grumble about the delay - and the OPC offered to fit it for him free of charge as a good will gesture.