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loc944

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I am about to fit 2 new front struts, lowered/uprated springs(-30), polybushes incl. castor mounts and polybush rear arb (front already done), then adjust rear height to suit.

I understand I will then need a full geometry set up done.
What settings should be used? Standard? custom? Can it be set up like a 968 clubsport? or should I go to a specialist ?

The car will be used on track and fast road, not dailly.

Where do I obtain factory settings?

All advice/help appreciated,
Alan.
 
Look at the manuals you can download from Rick Cannell's site - those have the geometry setting ranges in them. The advice I followed was to choose the most aggressive set published (which was '89 for the S2, but may be different for the lux) and ensure they are set at the most aggressive end of those. You most certainly need to talk to an expert to get them done (you won't be able to do them without very specialist equipment), and need to ask around to find an expert local to you (and it's worth giving them a call beforehand to make sure they are used to doing 944's.)

Messers Empson and Haughey on here will be able to give a lot more advice, as will anyone else who has their 944 set up for track use.


Oli.
 
I thought the 944 used the same tools as the old Golf to adjust the geometry - and that most garages that offer 4 wheel tracking can usually do it?

 
Front is very similar to Golf (earlier ones more similar than later ones). Rear is totally different, and where the problems occur.

Somewhere with experience of 944's is good as they will know what they are doing, and will be able to advise you on what your options are.


Oli.
 
Kenny Brown in Hillington will sort you out. Not cheap though, he quoted me 4 hours labour for proper set-up which was £160. [:eek:]

Stuart
 
Thanks for the replies so far.

Nick, that link could be usefull.

Stuart, spoke to Kenny today, knows his stuff it seems.

Alan.
 
As mentioned above, I spoke briefly to Kenny Brown yesterday who is well respected in setting up competition and track cars. He says he can set me up no problem, but to ask club members who have their cars set up for track for settings to use as a benchmark.

Any track settings info. please.

Thanks Alan.
 
Alan I think for a mixed use car I would be looking at around -3 degrees camber on the front and between -2 and -3 on the rear. Castor between 2.5 and 3 degrees per side. Toe close to zero (personal choice), some like more. For many years I had my road car set up with 3 on the castor and 0 toe, personally I found that to be pretty much perfect. Going the same way on my race car but just more camber (4 front, 3 back), well actually less but that is another story.

Something I have learned and is advice I heard from a single seater race car specialist. Always always setup a car on the wheels and tyres you intend to use it on.
 

ORIGINAL: Neil Haughey

Alan I think for a mixed use car I would be looking at around -3 degrees camber on the front and between -2 and -3 on the rear.
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I think you need to define 'mixed' a little; that's a heck of a lot of camber for a car that's used on the road for any significant mileage. It will eat tyres at a rate of knots.


Oli.
 

ORIGINAL: Neil Haughey

Alan I think for a mixed use car I would be looking at around -3 degrees camber on the front and between -2 and -3 on the rear. Castor between 2.5 and 3 degrees per side. Toe close to zero (personal choice), some like more. For many years I had my road car set up with 3 on the castor and 0 toe, personally I found that to be pretty much perfect. Going the same way on my race car but just more camber (4 front, 3 back), well actually less but that is another story.

Something I have learned and is advice I heard from a single seater race car specialist. Always always setup a car on the wheels and tyres you intend to use it on.
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3 degrees is massive for the road!


................in my view 1.5 is probably the nominal with 0 degrees toe, any more and you need serious ARB`s.
 
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