First Time Buyer

[924Srr27l]

...Do you refer to that family Saloon as the Model S P85D (691bhp) ? ...

No. RFM.

I'm sure Luke won't be changing his mind John and opting for a Model 3 Tesla @ £60,000 []
R

Standard is shy of £40K performance is under £50K (as per my link to the Tesla Model 3 buying site - have you actually bothered to follow the link?). I'm not sure where you get your information from.

And we aren't suggesting this is what the OP should buy it was just by way of indication that, in modern terms a 944 is no longer a performance car and the gap is going to grow. But you are welcome to argue that black is white if it makes you happy.
If the OP wants to buy a Classic Car then the 944 is the best of the bunch and, in comparison to its age, is really very modern. If he wants a performance car then, in this day and age IMHO, a 944 isn't and there are a great many more modern vehicles which will provide greater bang for your buck and less aggravation to maintain ....a Boxster for example. Granted a Boxster isn't going to appreciate like a 944.

And just because it isn't the fastest car on the street/track/in your mind doesn't make it any less desirable. Who wouldn't have a Mk1 Escort, E Type, 250 GTO, DB5, RS2000, 914/6, 550 etc. etc etc All are slow to the point of pedestrian by modern car standards but beyond awesome as a thing to have and would light your sole to drive.

John, it was you that was telling Luke NOT to buy a 944 because they were not as fast as a Modern car and then your suggesting an electric Tesla !
Then (above) you've said "a 944 is no longer a performance car " and then the next sentence say "If the OP wants to buy a Classic Car then the 944 is the best of the bunch "

So if your calling it a classic car John why are you trying to emphasize it'll be no good against a car from the year 2019 when Luke hasn't even mentioned this
is his criteria?

Contradiction:
- a combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another.
- a situation in which inconsistent elements are present.

Take a look at post number 1 again, you'll not see any mention about what 944 should I buy to compete with a modern car!

Your recommended Electric car @ £40 - 50 or £60,000 or even £64,995 (see link below) is I suspect not the best advice to be given to an enthusiast
asking what 944 model to go for on a Porsche 944 forum! But you are welcome to argue that black is white if it makes you happy.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/it...ae2:g:S74AAOSwDJFdEyLq

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[John Sims]

It was you who took the discussion on to Electric cars by asking (the somewhat arbitrary question) if a GT4 Cayman will seem slow in 45 years time. The Tesla reference was just by way of answering "Yes". You then picked up the ball and ran with it.

The whole discussion with regard to the 944 compared to more modern cars was just to ensure Luke knew exactly what he was buying into. And quite frankly trying to pretend a 924/944 can burn off anything and everything produced since is just lying to the guy.

 

[924Srr27l]

It was you who took the discussion on to Electric cars by asking (the somewhat arbitrary question) if a GT4 Cayman will seem slow in 45 years time. The Tesla reference was just by way of answering "Yes". You then picked up the ball and ran with it.
The whole discussion with regard to the 944 compared to more modern cars was just to ensure Luke knew exactly what he was buying into. And quite frankly trying to pretend a 924/944 can burn off anything and everything produced since is just lying to the guy.

From several replies this topic wandered into a zone comparing a 944 with a modern car, hence my post will the latest GT4 have the same issue in 45 years time.
I didn't mention electric cars, you did by referring to a family saloon that gets to 60mph from zero in 3.2 seconds

Reading Luke's original question and answers :

LUKE
So I wondered if I could get a bit of a discussion going on:
Which model is the most enjoyable to drive and in terms of investment where is the market at, what is likely to appreciate most in the coming years (square dash vs oval dash), (turbos vs NAs) (S vs S2)?
Please help a young enthusiast out and any advice on things to look for would be welcomed!

I am quite a purist so I would want to be looking for something as close to original as possible and then try my best to keep it that way!


I didn't and still don't think is assisting a purchase of a 944 I'm sure Luke knows exactly what he's buying into John!
I don't recall any replies / assumptions on this thread saying:

"a 924/944 can burn off anything and everything produced since"

Maybe some discussions on what transaxle is best with a budget of £10,000, £15,000 and £20,000 would be a good
way to continue this thread..........


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[John Sims]

Whatever. I accept you are never going to be wrong.

And please stop putting arbitrary images in your answers. It extends the thread unnecessarily and makes it a pain for mobile browsing.

 

[924Srr27l]

Whatever. I accept you are never going to be wrong.
And please stop putting arbitrary images in your answers. It extends the thread unnecessarily and makes it a pain for mobile browsing.

Things are so better clearer cut John, nothing to do with who's right or wrong Grumpy![]

This particular posts title is "First time buyer" and Luke requests info from members who have and do own 944's...

Arbitrary Meaning:
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

The photos' s I've included are very relevant, they are Porsche transaxles !

Get yourself a Desktop Computer and screen or a decent Laptop, these current fashionable hand held mini computers / tablets etc..are a pita!

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[blade7]

I'm getting an overriding feeling of Deja poo, I've encountered this sh*te before....

 

[924Srr27l]

I'm getting an overriding feeling of Deja poo, I've encountered this sh*te before....

Pity there's not an UNHELPFUL button you can use.....I guess it would wear out very quickly !

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[944Turbo]

I think a lot of the 'wont be able to buy fuel' arguments ignore that oil is not just used for fuel production, I will be very surprised if fossil fuels are not still available in 50 years time. I Notice all reports about the ULEZ in london only focus on how much money is being raised - I have not seen a single report saying the air quality is X amount better, which is leading me to believe it hasn't really changed and they are worrking on fudging the stats.
You might only be able to buy new electric or hybrids (assuming battery/charging technology has improved - and it is using more common, easily found elements) but there will still be an army of classics to support. You can still buy leaded fuel if you try hard enough and it is not that costly to mod a car to suit unleaded.
Tony