Fatal Car Crash

[Copperman05]

Sympathy's to the family of the 18 year old who was killed in his Black 944 Turbo on Wednesday night in Devon. A tragic case. Be careful out there....

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Edd

 

[Mike_Pollock]

Very sad.

 

[John Sims]

Regrettably, giving someone who has just passed their test a 944 Turbo to drive will have inevitable results.

We were all young once and we all remember what we did .......fortunately I only had an 1100 Escort to play with and the roads were much clearer.

 

[Copperman05]

Lets not be too judgmental at this stage, easy to assume the crash was down to driver error and age, but without knowing the facts perhaps a little unfair? Going by the text its not clear who pulled out on who but if the van did pull out on him there is not much you can do...


Edd

 

[GlennS]

Always sad to see a life ended so prematurely.

 

[Suffolk944]

So sad that yet another young driver has lost their life and annoying that typically the report focuses on the car he was driving rather than the circumstances of the crash and who pulled out on who. That said it is astonishing that someone who had just passed their test was handed the keys to a car capable of over 160 mph and with acceleration to match though I take Edds point that in this case it may have had no bearing at all in the tragedy.

 

[CarreraRSR]

Indeed the same fate may well of occurred with the teenage favourite Saxo or Corsa within the speed limits. Those cars and others which most young drivers are compelled to choose due to ridiculous insurance premiums are hardly famed for their occupant safety in collisions now are they. And yes again another article focusing on what he was driving rather than the circumstances. If he were in a Saxo I am 99% certain the brand of car would not of been included in the piece.

 

[j4mou]

That's terrible. RIP

 

[ukmastiff]

All the car matters aside , sounds like a decent young man lost to decent parents , tragic



Mas

 

[Frenchy]

Sounds as though the Peugot has pulled out of a side road on him, sounds like a nice young lad, his dad obviously has a few quid, but to be honest, i would not have been keen on letting an in experienced driver loose in a car of that capability until he had a few miles under his belt in something a little more mundane.
I am by no means saying that the lad was to blame at all, just stating that in my book any 18 year old should not be allowed loose on the road in a car with this capability, they would have absolutely next no roadcraft at all and lets be honest most would be loose cannons with little or no respect for the possible implications.
I know i was that way out and did not have a clue when i was that age, fortunately only a 1.3 escort which i still managed to crash a couple of times but managed to stay in one bit.
I managed to land on the stump of a cut down tree that had killed a couple of lads 12 months previous.
All said and done such a waste of a young life.

 

[Neil Haughey]

Sometimes its just your time. Years ago now a friend of my brothers was killed in a head on collision at a junction near Pitsford in Northamptonshire. The lad who was only in his early 20's at the time came up to the junction, looked right to see it was clear and pulled out left straight into the path of a van who at that instant had swerved out to overtake a slow moving car. One lad dead and another in hospital.

Almost anything could have happened in this case.

 

[MarkK]

Terrible,heart goes out to the parents and family.

 

[surrey 944T]

Very sad to see.

Agree with others putting an 18 yr old in a 944 turbo is very silly thing to do (not in relation to this sad accident but just in general)

 

[SUSIT]

tragic for all

but think we are jumping the gun re 18 year old in fast car, we know nil about his background, I know a number of 16 year olds who would put most of us to shame with there car control having taken part in karting since knee high to grasshopper then sprinting and hillclimbing since the age of 16 in very quick single seater's. Agree what they lack is road craft.

Still tragic for all involved particularly parents, we shouldn't outlive our kids

 

[pauljmcnulty]

but think we are jumping the gun re 18 year old in fast car, we know nil about his background, I know a number of 16 year olds who would put most of us to shame with there car control having taken part in karting since knee high to grasshopper then sprinting and hillclimbing since the age of 16 in very quick single seater's. Agree what they lack is road craft.

Road craft, or experience to put it better, is far more a factor in road driving that any amount of either talent, or early-learning driving such as karting.

In fact, peer pressure is a major player in accidents amongst the very young drivers, and I'm sure that "go on, you are a proper racing driver aren't you" can't possibly be a good thing from your mates in the back.

I know, I lost a brother to a stupid car accident when he was in his early twenties; he survived tours of NI and active service in Iraq, but ran out of talent showing off to a mate on an icy German road in his Astra GTE. Just popping out to pick up a video for their wives to watch, his wife had just found out she was expecting their first child. Lives are genuinely changed for ever, in the blink of an eye.

Now, I'm a long way over that experience, but I can't ever stress enough to people how you should always put your kids in the safest car possible; something that's not easy as the insurance on a Volvo is impossible, whereas you can let them lose in a Saxo, with all the protection of a toilet roll. Personally, and no disrespect to the people involved, I don't think any 18-year-old needs to be out on slippery roads in a 944 turbo. I'd rather they were resricted to something with airbags all-round, and about 7 bhp.

My other brother did grass-track since 5 years old. He was Cornish champion many times, and competed all over the country. He could have easily got in to professional speedway had he not decided to do law at uni! He's the worst driver I've ever known, in all seriousness. He is nervous, has no awareness of other cars, can't park to save his life, he's hopeless. He also doesn't read forums......[&:]

 

[jdpef356]

Sorry to hear of this and your loss Paul.


Problem is someone will wake up somewhere in the UK this morning and similar will have happened as did to this young lad.


You could say 'When Your numbers up' or ' it was an accident' but common sense in most cases would save a lot of lives.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356



Sorry to hear of this and your loss Paul.


Problem is someone will wake up somewhere in the UK this morning and similar will have happened as did to this young lad.


You could say 'When Your numbers up' or ' it was an accident' but common sense in most cases would save a lot of lives.

Then I read http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=728554&mpage=1&key=ò±·ª


Why dont I keep my Big Mouth shut[]

 

[Dave928]

It is very tragic that anyone loses their lives in a car accident.

However, Parents stupid enough to buy a young driver an old high performance car with no mod cons at such a young age have to take a lot of the blame. They are asking for trouble. Why did he even buy him a turbo and not a starter 924 or 944 na ??
We see it all to often. Kids want the best cars just after they pass their test nowadays. No more kids driving around in old bangers. I also see less and less L and P plates on cars which should be displayed for a year after passing I think.
What are the chances of the lad speeding on that patchy wet country road, hitting a corner too fast, crap tyres, locking the brakes up and ploughing into the side of the van that had just pulled out of a side road as it was previously clear.....
Ive seen this type of erratic, confidence filled type of driving from kids who think theyre in control of a car before. Usually the 18- 23 year old age bracket. It's scary.

 

[John Sims]

While I hate the concept, as it stinks of a Nanny State, I think there should be a list, or criteria, for vehicles young or inexperienced drivers may drive legally. They do it for bikes, why not cars?

 

[Buddy]

I can't speak of the young man being a good driver or not, he may well have sat alongside or behind his dad from a young age and gained early experience of reading the road but the other fact not mentioned is that a lot of roads are badly planned and a van which is slow to pull out may have been taking longer than the driver realised without being able to see what is approaching, a van has no lights on the side and I've known experienced drivers to drive straight into the side of a truck as they didn't see it. Not so common these days as the big trucks do tend to have marker lights along their sides. Yes, I was a bit erratic as a young driver, too fast for some roads and my own brakes but it doesn't necessarily have to be the case with this lad, his dad probably feels responsible, what father wouldn't? But we don't even know if it was a road the lad knew and we can all get caught out.