I agree with most of the sentiment here. I'm pretty much a novice mechanic, also young enough to still be the right side of 40
, and appreciate any advice anyone offers to my often stupid questions. It's a shame to lose knowledge from the forum, but I'm sure you won't be able to keep away for too long!
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farewell
- Thread starter peanut
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hiya,,sorry to hear of your leaving peanut,,just like to wish you all the best for the future, totally empathize with your situation as lost my dad to cancer a couple of years ago and my mum has just been diagnosed with vasculer dementia at the age of 70,, have done about 30 miles in my s2 since last mot as family stuff taking up all the time and i think with the low prices for boxsters etc it will introduce a mavbe more chav element to the fold,,all the best for the future peanut,,kind regards jason p
I agree...keep lurking. I know it's a hard time...my late father was so "out of it" when I bought my S2, he didn't even have the interest to berate me for wasting my money on such a thing. Don't leave...try making a list of the good things about the Forum...here's a start with the things I think are so great: The humour. The fact that the old hands can spare the time and patience to offer advice to new owners. The depth of knowledge/understanding that's on offer. The modifiers...300+bhp? Superchargers? Turbos with no lag? They're an awesome bunch. The relentless optimism of people with problem cars. The specialist independents that are happy to pitch in etc
George Elliott
New member
Always appreciated your input Peanut. best wishes George 944t
And who knows what other features might turn up on your car if you hang around! It is mildly ironic that on the other thread it wasnt Thoms cars that had the problem so he didn't need advice and by the sound of it you were both having a bad day. The forum is a better place with posters from the full range of the spectrum be boring if we all agreed all the time, Tony
was on the white smoke and power loss blown HG threadORIGINAL: 944 man I seem to have completely missed this altercation...
924nutter
PCGB Member
Bye bye guys. I haven't been very active or made many posts on this forum; I only speak from experience and talk about what I have first hand knowledge of which limits me to belts and head gaskets, so I wont be missed. Like peanut over the last few days I have come to realise that there is indeed a different kind of mentality coming into 944 ownership and it is not so much about attitudes towards the cars or the members but much more about the mindless and incessant use of 2, U, Iv, instead of to, you and I've in many of the posts now appearing and being 62 and abit of a stickler for at least something that passes for coherent sentence construction it is driving me up the wall. I can't see the appeal or the need to communicate to others in what I can only call such a sloppy manner and it conjures up a very specific kind of stereotype in my mind when I see it. So rather than end up being quite rude I am going to do what was commonplace many years ago when people wanted to make a point. It may be the way the world is going but back when a proper education was important and poor grammatical practise was frowned upon, it was drummmed into me how important the ability to communicate was, so I am sorry but I do not want to be part of a "new speak" revolution. It is not that I don't understand, and even I use so called "contractions" when texting; there, charcters are limited and time is often of the essence, so I can condone it, but on the forum none of these constraints apply. This is not Twitter or Facebook, you are talking to people you do not know and asking for help in this casual manner is in my opinion quite discourteous, furthermore, often in your haste to abbreviate everything, a) the grammer falls over and the context of the question is lost or, b) I decide that if you can't be bothered to take the time to enquire in a courteous way, I can't be bothered to answer. To those of you who do it, you are starting to drive away knowledgable members who could help you new guys out a lot, but 2 all of U[
] that is not the way to get my attention. Now two of us have decided to walk away. Text speak? You are welcome to it
peanut
Active member
Truly sorry to see that you are leaving the forum too John .You are one of the many guys on here whose posts are a joy to read and helpful and informative too. It will be the forum's loss. I agree whole heartedly with your comments, particularly in reference to text speak. To my mind its just sheer laziness and also very disrespectful. I also dislike the arrogance of some younger members who are disrespectful of those mature members who have 30, 40, 50+ years experience of repairs maintenance and restoring cars I think what has driven the final nail in the coffin for me is the preponderance of ,for want of a better word,chavs that have recently become 944 owners and PCGB members. The cheapness of these cars have encouraged a new type of owner, as former owners and enthusiasts with more buying power move up to Boxters and 911's . Like you I have grown up in an era that valued respect and courtesy and altruism where these character attributes were considered a true virtue and something to aspire to. Nowadays if the TV and media are anything to go by it seems to be about the opposite where the highest aspiration of young people seems to be about celebrity status ,easy living, drugs, drink and material possessions and being as rude and disrespectful as possible. When I was a kid my Father belonged to the AA and he proudly sported the badge on the badge bar of his cars. You could stop at any of the yellow AA boxes along the roadside in the UK and find a can of petrol tools jacks and other helpful stuff and there was a free telephone to phone for a AA patrolman who came out on his motorcycle to get you going again. People always stopped to help others in difficulty and you never drove past a stopped car at the verge. This is a philosophy that I was brought up with and carried to this day. Today if you tried to help someone you'd probably get a mouthful of abuse or mugged or worse. Its been a pleasure to have made your aquaintanceORIGINAL: 924nutter Bye bye guys.
andrew_churcher
New member
Seriously guys - did I read that correctly that you are leaving over some "text speak" and some apparent slights etc..........are you really that thin skinned? When I had my 944 this seemed a great forum and I haven't seen a material change in the messages / user base recently. If I ever buy another 944 I would have no problem rejoining this forum community
Veerzigzag
New member
Oh dear - Peanut departing and now 924Nutter. Come on guys - maybe just have a break and return in due course. There aren't that many semi-literate postings, and I am sure many people would agree that your postings are valuable; they contribute to the benefit of owning a 944. I used to own 911's (SC variety) until school fees intervened, and was thinking that I would get back to them via a 944. But having acquired my 944 a year ago, I can't see any reason to change it. Goes like hell, sounds great, looks good. As an old (65) git, obviously I am excused speed limits, which helps. But to keep my 944 in top condition and pre-empt any nasty surprises, reading Peanut's and 944nutter's postings about other people's problems is interesting and valuable. Oh, and opinions on best wheels and most suitable oil of course... Think again guys - please.
Martin Sage
New member
'Grammer' John? oops! [
]
This is all a bit sad. I would caution being too judgemental of people. I am guilty of sometimes using a colloquial turn of phrase on internet forums. I also have a masters degree in engineering and I am a published author. I've had the pleasure of meeting many people on this forum and it's a great, friendly community. I've had people send parts/tools out to me for free and I've done the same favour for others (Craig, I did get the spline bit, your PM inbox is full!!). Young and old we're all united in a love of the cars. I've had some great advice on here, which gave me the confidence to do my own timing belts (which I did for the fun and challenge of it, not because I'm a chav and couldn't pay £60 an hour at OPC Cambridge!). I try and share my knowledge when I can.
944 man
Active member
It certainly is.ORIGINAL: robdimond This is all a bit sad.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
Which is why I opened the opportunity to put forward suggestions. Personally, I hate posts where the writing is genuinely unreadable, barring people who don't have English as a first language, of course, but I think we see that pretty rarely here, and can always ignore the odd very badly written post. It's also rare that people end up arguing, I probably see it less here than when I had teenage stepkids at home! [&:] Leaving doesn't helpo anyone unless you're leaving because you need to take time out for a good reason. We can't have Club representatives leaving the forums IMO, in fact we need more to be pulling their weight here. If you care, then you do something about it. Giving up on something might be an "easy" option, but it's better to face up to a problem and talk about it. just like any other relationships with real people....[This is all a bit sad.
Copperman05
New member
Have to say I agree with you Paul. There arent really that many text type posts (2%?) and it seems extreme people are willing to leave because of it. The 944 community is a diverse one and you cant expect to get on with all of the people, all of the time. Most of us are decent bunch when it comes down to it and I'm often impressed by the amount of people who are willing to take the time to travel to help others view cars, or lend tools, workspace, and often with people they have never met before. I thought things were going pretty well to be honest, there are some great 944 meets this year, ok the track day was a bit of a disappointment but I'm working on the weather, promise! Then there is the trip to Porsche Museum, Brighton Meet, supporting Markk and the club championship, all good active 944 stuff that we should be doing. There is a lot a help and support available here on this forum it seems a shame to miss out. Edd

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