Diesels...how long do they have left?

[penkhullwolf]

BMW & Tesla offer 10 year guarantee on battery.

But, tesla's have been running far longer than that and only see 10% battery degradation. Same as nissan's

The common misconception is a car battery is a big phone / laptop battery but it isn't. Clever battery management to shift current around to ensure longer battery life.

7kwh charge points can be fitted to any house no problem at all. Unless you have shared drive / are in flats.

57 percent of EV owners charge at home. Mainly overnight when there is very little consumption as everyone is asleep. And electric is cheaper.

400 mile journey in an EV will cost about £12.

Add to that, less servicing as there are far less moving parts. What can they service every year?

The national grid have already thought about mass adoption of EV's.

Charging infrastructure (which they are proposing putting in themselves if necessary):-
https://www.nationalgrid.com/sites/default/files/documents/Electric%20Vehicle%20Charging%20-%20enabling%20the%20switch.pdf

Are the national grid worried about black outs / running out of electric, do we need 10 more power stations? They say nope, as long as EV owners mainly charge at night, which, why wouldn;t you when it's half the price:-
https://theenergyst.com/millions-electric-vehicles-sooner-predicted-no-sweat-says-national-grid/

according to National Grid’s EV lead, Graeme Cooper he believed National Grid "would support a more ambitious target” and could "absolutely” cope in that scenario.

 

[dlknight]

My only issue with electric cars (apart from the obvious issue of where the power comes from to charge the batteries, produce the batteries, dispose of the batteries etc) is the fact you hardy hear them coming, particularly when travelling slowly in towns. They'll have to be fitted with noise generators like council run vehicles reversing
Considering the electric motor was invented before they invented the IC engine it's a shame it hasn't been used more sooner. We'd have figured out all this power source issues years ago if they had..
However, saying all that, I'll always be keeping the 944 I love a good petrol engine! And it shows by my car purchases, I'm a late adopter....

Those are the standard stereotypical points that always come up when EVs are mentioned, just my views, feel free to put me in my box

Lets hit each point in turn -

1. Renewable power generation (need two sub-points here)
a. Renewable power on the national grid is increasing thanks to investment in offshore wind farms and other renewable initiatives, also let's not forget nuclear power although that is also contraversial
b. An increasing number of UK households are investing in efficient solar systems with energy storage that reduces the amount of grid power consumer during night time hours, this can in turn be used to charge EVs at the home.
2. Producing batteries, disposal of batteries - much like ICE (internal combustion engine) - components are made all over the world (with careful planning things could change to move production closer to where it is required). What about all the waste produced during an ICE car's lifetime - not just the gases but waste oil and other fluids! There are also other components within a car that are common to both EVs and ICE. This is what really irritates me in the arguments for and against electric cars - instead of looking purely at the fuel and propulsion of the vehicle, naysayers begin to highlight common issues with car construction techniques and processes which are relevant to both. IMO changing the engine to something that doesn't require dino juice and doesn't cause "local" pollution in cities and streets and doesn't dump more dino juice when you service it is one great step to making the entire vehicle as a whole "greener". Also the other benefits - have you looked at the service costs for an EV? Aside from tyres, brakes and suspension there really isn't much else to service!
3. Noise of an EV - have you seen EVs driving around in the flesh as a pedestrian? I have no problem hearing them as almost all vehicles generate road noise caused by the tyre contacting the road surface. And then bikes - bikes are virtually noiseless, has anyone ever suggested that bikes be retrofitted with a noise generator so people can hear them coming? that is what a bell is for. When the motor car was first introduced a man with a flag had to run in front to warn pedestrians of the vehicle - at the end of the day we can't nanny every pedestrian, people leap out in front of ICE cars all the time whilst they are glued to their mobile phones so why will they change behaviour because of a fake engine sound on an EV?