Could this be a Turbo S

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: Shark

Saw such an example parked up at Promax the other week (black S2) bought from a "well known" dealer north of the border. The dealer had delivered it there as the new owner wanted Promax to check it over...they did so and their consequent advice was to scrap it....[&:]

Get your facts correct before you make assumptions. That car was sold for £3500 as a project needing all sorts of work, some paint, clutch and release bearing, belts, servicing, shocks, fuel/brakelines etc etc.. a project. It was advertised as spares or repairs with faults listed. Guy wanted it delivered to Promax, they condemned it.
..as expected.

I didn't buy the car in this thread by the way..

Nice reply Mark, some cars need to be scrapped and others are uneconomical to repair unless you do all the jobs yourself. The buyer obviously hoped it could be fixed, but at a Specialist the bills were always going to be big!!

Too many presumptions and at times we take the words of Promax, JMG etc. as gospel when in fact they are doing what they can to make a good living as we all do in our line of work.

Mark, Did you show an interest in the Turbo S or was it not for you?

 

[Shark]

Thanks Martin.. The next man would have been happy, the car wanted another £3000 spending on it, though could have been improved for half of that and still be a good car worth 6k+ afterwards, or even more if done right.
The chap was not a mechanically minded individual unable to do any of it himself, his intention was to chip away at it over the years. Ofcourse Promax would condemn it, we knew they would.

No I didn't even enquire about the S.. I only try to do circa/sub 100k.

A member of this very forum viewed one of our cars last week and complimented that it was exactly as described and in beautiful order..so much so that he made an offer, which regrettably I did not accept. I am sure if he reads this, he will confirm.

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY

There's this one for sale as well guys

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C567400#

A price would have been nice?!

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Get your facts correct before you make assumptions. That car was sold for £3500 as a project needing all sorts of work, some paint, clutch and release bearing, belts, servicing, shocks, fuel/brakelines etc etc.. a project. It was advertised as spares or repairs with faults listed. Guy wanted it delivered to Promax, they condemned it.
..as expected.

So hard to know what's going on without seeing both sides, hence this forum's rules on commercial ads, and naming-and-shaming.

It's great when both points of view are posted, so thanks. It's rare that this happens, though,which is why we try to avoid it.

As Promax haven't replied, let's leave it here? []

Was just a general observation (based on facts !) that seems to have touched a nerve. I don't know what's going on with this forum these days. [&:]

For the record I had no idea that "Shark" was the dealer in question, but guess everyone does now...

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K



Too many presumptions and at times we take the words of Promax, JMG etc. as gospel when in fact they are doing what they can to make a good living as we all do in our line of work.

I would have thought that if they were just wanting to make a good living then they would have taken the guys money and repaired it rather than advised him to scrap ? And I have seen the car - have you ?

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY

There's this one for sale as well guys

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C567400#

He wants £9250 for it!!!

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K



Too many presumptions and at times we take the words of Promax, JMG etc. as gospel when in fact they are doing what they can to make a good living as we all do in our line of work.

I would have thought that if they were just wanting to make a good living then they would have taken the guys money and repaired it rather than advised him to scrap ? And I have seen the car - have you ?

Jon, if you want to make a point please include all of the quote not just the bit that suits you []

No, I haven't seen the car but also you didn't know the full facts about the car, how much it was sold for or what jobs were listed as needing to be done by the seller. Yet you made a point of commenting on the Dealer who I presume you have never bought a car off and probably view his reputation by other comments that you have heard?

Saw such an example parked up at Promax the other week (black S2) bought from a "well known" dealer north of the border.

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K



Too many presumptions and at times we take the words of Promax, JMG etc. as gospel when in fact they are doing what they can to make a good living as we all do in our line of work.

I would have thought that if they were just wanting to make a good living then they would have taken the guys money and repaired it rather than advised him to scrap ? And I have seen the car - have you ?

Jon, if you want to make a point please include all of the quote not just the bit that suits you []

No, I haven't seen the car but also you didn't know the full facts about the car, how much it was sold for or what jobs were listed as needing to be done by the seller. Yet you made a point of commenting on the Dealer who I presume you have never bought a car off and probably view his reputation by other comments that you have heard?

Saw such an example parked up at Promax the other week (black S2) bought from a "well known" dealer north of the border.

The rest of the quote suited me fine too but was not the bit I wanted to comment on and never like messy posts with quote upon quote cluttering them up.

The relative merits of one dealer/indy/supplier is something everyone can judge for themselves, I have no axe to grind with anyone.

As I understand it these forums are for 944 enthusiasts to discuss the cars and issues that affect them ?

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

ORIGINAL: PAUL RUDDY

There's this one for sale as well guys

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C567400#

He wants £9250 for it!!!

This is getting silly now.

Eta - and that includes the chap that spent £3500 on an s2 that needed £3k spent on it almost immediately.

 

[scam75]

I agree Steve. You should have bought mine when I offered you it for £7k, you would need to double that now!! []

Stuart

 

[sutters]

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This is getting silly now.

Eta - and that includes the chap that spent £3500 on an s2 that needed £3k spent on it almost immediately.
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mmm just the £3k needed spending .. think he has had a touch [X(]

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: scam75

I agree Steve. You should have bought mine when I offered you it for £7k, you would need to double that now!! []

Stuart

With a 968 in the garage, I'd be spending any £14k budget on a 996 rather than a turbo but that's going off thread now.

 

[scam75]

ORIGINAL: simkin911

ORIGINAL: scam75

I agree Steve. You should have bought mine when I offered you it for £7k, you would need to double that now!! []

Stuart

With a 968 in the garage, I'd be spending any £14k budget on a 996 rather than a turbo but that's going off thread now.

Was tongue in cheek buddy! Agree that a spare £14k would get you a lot of 996, however still would depreciate whereas the 944T would most likely continue to appreciate.

Stuart

 

[chrisg]

Hang on a second, am I missing something.... Isn't this the PCGB Forum not the WI or some bitch & stitch sewing club.......


There's always two sides to every argument, I know neither nor am I fully informed.

Regarding the S2 promax could be criticised for their approach to the "Scrap it, its not economical to repair" approach. but is that ACTUALLY what they said or did they say something else in context. Anyhow thats theyre professional opinion and as with all professions (Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers etc) the opinion can/is specific to the individual.

Even if they did, they have a reputation to uphold which, I believe (both hearsay & personal dealings) is pretty good. Maybe they felt that if did try to repair it and/or they quoted to repair it would damage their reputation ?

We all know from tinkering that ANY car can be repaired whether its mechanical or bodywork, just a matter of time vs money vs end value.

Anyhow, back to the original thread topic - notwithstanding costs to recommission the Turbo S after such a long lay off IMHO, I still think its a lot of car for not much money and I hope someone mechanically savey buys it and enjoys, including the rarity value. There were only a few thousand Turbo S' produced, the vast majority were the Silver Rose model.

I believe there were ~ 15/20 produced in RHD that were customer specification rather than Silver Rose.

Just off to pick up my stitch.....

Chris

 

[944 man]

There was a 944 Club Sport. It had its own option number too, although it wasn't quite what people may have expected.

 

[944 man]

M637 btw, but possibly only offered in North America.

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: 944 man

There was a 944 Club Sport. It had its own option number too, although it wasn't quite what people may have expected.

Yes, wasn't it a performance handling pack for the earlier 944S? did they do it for the Turbo as well?

Didn't realise it was called a Club Sport

 

[blade7]

I've swapped dozens of PM's with Jon Mitchell over the years asking for and receiving great advice, I've only put about £100 in his pocket for a lightly used part breakers wanted double for. Not had as much contact with Promax but they have been more than fair with me also in recent years.

 

[chrisg]

Can't comment personally on JMG as had no dealings with them, but by all accounts very good.

Dealt with Promax on a number of occasions - all very positive Im pleased to say !

 

[PAUL RUDDY]

It's re-appeared, and doubled in price, didn't think they were going up in price that quick ....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281569876108