Buying a 930 Turbo - what to look out for?

[BenL]

My first post since joining the PCGB. Considering buying a 930 and would be grateful if anyone can share any advice on what to look out for when buying? Are there areas susceptible to rust, engine problems, oil leaks, etc?

Are there any experts that can help?

Thanks in advance,
Ben

 

[GeoffB]

Ben

hi, superb car I'm sure John Ward will be along to give you some direction. However for my input rust is a major to look for. Usual places kidney bowls, floor etc . Have a look over on impactbumpers.com and search rust,the guys over there have detailed areas that are problematic and show how to check and approx costs to get sorted. If I recall the kidney bowl replacements are approx £1500/ side as you have to cut door jamb area to access

Good luck in the search

 

[BenL]

Thanks for the feedback Geoff. Hoping John Ward can offer some advise also.

 

[vic cohen]

Having owned several turbos since 1975, i have recently returned to a 3.3 with 330bhp from factory

Don't get tempted into a v low mileage proposition without checking the head studs thoroughly.........if any gone u will hear them rattle ...............however they do corrode ,especially, with lack of use beware may not immediately be apparent

good luck ......tremendous fun

 

[John_Ward]

Any 930 potentially has all the issues that afflict any 911, and a search of the 'net will bring most of them to light, and give you an idea of what they might cost to rectify, preferably by a specialist with a good reputation.

Many 911 buyers/owners find that it would have been better to have spent the extra money up front on a better car, rather than buying the cheaper rolling resto type option..... I have singularly failed to follow this option several times, much to the detriment of my wallet.

Given the amount that it is possible to spend whilst acquiring a 930 nowadays, unless you have a considerable amount of expertise yourself, a pre purchase inspection by someone who knows their 930s inside out would almost certainly be a wise investment.

There are not that many out there to choose from - best of luck with your search..... get a good one and you'll love it; get a half decent one and you will still love it.

Get a bad one ( they do exist!), then provided that you bought it at the right price, you can spend the rest of your budget resurrecting one of the very best sports cars of all time to your own requirements - factory standard as specified in the cars Certificate of Authenticity would generally be the preferred option.

 

[kevin bryant]

Ben,

Buy one you are willing to drive on the track, not one to polish, take to the pub and otherwise hide away in storage facility.

Driving a sorted 930 hard is simply ....

Sorry lost for words. Just drive one, hard.

Kev

 

[997Mike]

Rust ,rust and more rust

Mike

 

[SEE YA]

Rust ,rust and more rust

Mike

That is the same on any old car.

You want one that has been looked after money spent each year.Condition not miles,low miles big bill will follow.

A 930 can eat up 25k + very fast.

 

[kevinkjse]

Errr I like to to polish mine and like to take it to the pub and also like to hide it away but not in a storage facility!

Also like taking it to Le Mans so not completely sad

Just work out your budget and then double it! buy the best you can't afford and enjoy

 

[Andyhall]

Get it checked out and get it checked out, can't say it enough, there are lots of superficially tidy cars out there, with prices high it pays unscrupulous garages to 'tart up' a very poor example and charge good money for them. They aren't cheap to keep in good shape but are tremendous fun.

I just used Classic Retrofit to update some of the electrics, helped a lot.

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[Timspu]

Owned mine for 6 years now, I possibly bought at the right time. Car was inspected before I bought it, only a couple of issues which I negotiated down on price. Then.... once driving it regulary the issues appeared, top end rebuild, broken studs burnt valves, 3LDZ turbo let go whilst playing with a Diablo, good fun. got a K27 fitted. Gearbox rebuild due 3rd gear grind, Alternator replace, wheel bearings etc etc. Paint work and rust repaired. So 6 years on and still spending. New brakes this year followed by suspension refresh. All in all great car but are a bit of a money pit depending on your standards. I have put about 15 K in so far.

These cars are big money today, not sure how long it will last. Buy what you want but don't buy as an investment. Drive the car and be rewarded

 

[kevinkjse]

Wow is that 7 x 930's Timspu has purchased lol

This is what mine has cost since 1996 some 21 years with a current valuation of £120,000.00

One of the best investments I have made!

SERVICE COSTS TOTAL sub totalvattotal Purchase Price £ 38,000.00 1998 300.00 Ruf Autoaprox2000 212.00 Vacs Air Con2000 3,794.15 Pat Walsh 2001 877.82 JZ Matchtec 2003 737.04 Porsche Cars Reading2006 2,799.35 JZ Matchtec 1010 3,411.26 Bob Watson2011 1,331.04 Porsche Guildford/Type 911/Acorn2012 5,551.75 Bob Watson/Porsche Guildford2013 636.52 Porsche Guildford/Type 911/Acorn2014 98.75 Oil/Opie 2015 978.35 Kontact/ SCS2016 703.75 RSR2016 11,506.34 SCS engine rebuild + £ 250.00 Nick Moss for fan unit plating. £32,938.12 £ 6,587.62 £ 39,525.74 Insurance Costs 1997 400 1998 400 1999 400 2000 400 2001 400 2002 400 2003 400 2004 400 2005 400 2006 400 2007 400 2008 400 2009 400 2010 400 2011 400 2012 400 2013 400 2014 400 2015 500 2016 525 Road Tax Costs 1997 79 1999 150 1998 150 2000 155 2001 160 2002 88 2003 160 2004 165 2005 165 2006 70 2007 175 2008 180 2009 185 2010 190 2011 205 2012 215 2013 220 2014 250 2015 250 2016 None Total Cost to Date £ 50,962.74 Purchase Price £ 38,000.00 Sub-Total Cost of Owenership £ 88,962.74 Less Tax on Costs say 20% aprox 10,192.55 Total Cost £ 78,770.20 Petrol 30,000 miles @ 16 miles/G 1875gallonsat av £ 3.00/gal 5,625.00 Total Cost of Ownership £ 84,395.20

 

[kevinkjse]

I don't know what happened there, I copied and pasted an excel file and it looked good on the reply but seemed to get a bit mixed up in cyber space! still bottom line still the same total cost inc road tax, insurance and petrol £84,395

regards

kev

 

[Timspu]

Sorry guys, typed on my blackberry in a poor signal area. Hit the button a few times as it would not send.

Message to operator, stop hitting the submit button