Menu toggle

At long last.... as promised... it's here!

DSCBoy

New member
Well folks, I finally took delivery of the new beast yesterday following a lengthy wait and as promised when I've been picking the brains of you all on this forum here's the full SP:

The car on initial visual inspection is a 40,000km, widebody 964 with integral Matter cage, painted a slightly bizarre Mercedes Designo colour, it looks battleship grey in some lights (actually very cool) and metallic light blue in others (like the standard 964 colour). It has a full bespoke interior, with carpet made to match the paint and a dark red leather lining that covers roof... all glued in around the tied in cage.. including the dash being fully covered and some carbon fibre highlights. However beyond this nothing in the way of sound deadening has been added. And someone has spent LUDICROUS amounts of dough on it... even down to the "RS" logo stitched into the back bulkhead being leather cut outs in the same leather.

Doors are aluminium, wheels are full 3.8 RS Speedline for Porsche, brakes are big and red running on Girling aluminium hubs.

Paperwork shows it to be 1 of the first 50 RS Clubsports, originally Red, but shell is clearly unaltered and under the current paint appears to have been Grand Prix White originally.

Finally, it has a 3.6 litre BiTurbo grunter... built (again at major cost) by Turbo Technics Pietz who I am told do the Gemballa engines, with a water cooling system for the turbos.

My documentation notes the car as having been rebuilt into the shell of 96ZPS497@@@, for which I have a copy of the original logbook, which shows it to have been a Grand Prix White 3.8 RS Clubsport.

The question I'm going to get asked next is who, what and most of all why? Well as often with these things, it's a story about having just TOO much money!

I've bought the car from a company of architects, who were given it by it's creator, Dr Schumacher. The Herr Doctor was the boss of German chip company, Infineon, and was making rather a lot of money during the dot com boom. From what we know, his collection ran to 40-50 cars, included in which were at least 2 RS C/S (one of which he lent to a friend for a track day, and when the guy finally got around to giving the car back 2.5 years later he hadn't noticed it was missing!), a 3.8 RS C/S and a couple of 3.8 RSR race cars.

However, the 3.8 RSR's were not factory builts, instead they were created by race teams from shells sold by the factory, so while they had a shell number, they didn't have a VIN and hence couldn't be made road legal. However, following a smash that destroyed the RSR's engine (broke the crank apparently), Dr S decided that he'd like to convert this into a road car, so he took the engine and the VIN from the 3.8 RS C/S and Robert's your mothers brother, one road going 3.8 RSR!

They now had a problem of what to do with the engine-less 3.8 RS... but the good Herr Doctor doesn't seem to have been the Worlds "luckiest" driver, and some time previously he had attempted to interface the hand brake lever on his Red RS C/S with a tree trunk... fortunately (!?) via the passenger door rather than the drivers one and this wreckage was sat in the corner of the collection... so another simple swap of the VINs onto the pristine 3.8 RS C/S and the car was headed for the road again... however given he already had one totally hard core 3.8 on the road now (the ex- race car), the decision was made to unload a truck of Euros in the direction of his favourite mechanics to build him "something unique".

Hence we have what I suppose should be known as the Infineon 3.8 RS Biturbo.

Some of you may be aware of the downfall of Dr S and it's not the place of this forum to stray too far into it, suffice to say there was accusations that Infineon's very high profile sponsorship of a team in the SuperCup series involved some kick backs that definitely went to the marketing guy and may have gone higher... and this cloud of suspicion was a little hard to shake... there was then some suggestion that the architects retained to build the new Campus for Infineon didn't go through the correct bid process/ and were family friends of Dr S and the board terminated his contract (and that of the architects). So just 6 months after it was built, the car was given to the architects as an apology for the loss of the deal, and has been off the road ever since while they worked out what to do with it. (Sep 03).

Rest assured, she's now fully re-commisioned, freed from captivity, and with 450bhp and 510nm of torque, she's ludicrously quick as you can imagine given I would guess she weighs only a smidge more than a normal 3.8 RS C/S...

In fact, after 600km together yesterday, I think I'm in love!

As always, love to hear your opinions on the story above! Now to work out how to post some pics!

Cheers
Rick
 
Here we go, (I hope)

68773AE08AAF44D3BA48CB57BADC604F.jpg
 
So what you have is a vin plate from a 3.8 RS built into a shell that has production numbers that won't match the original car? Why when Dr S wrote off the second car did'nt he take the chance to swap the identities back, so at least he had one car with real provanance?
 
Dr S ended up with a smashed RS C/S which was never going anywhere again, sans VIN...
And a nice pair of road going 3.8 RS's... one a clubsport (mine) wearing the RS C/S VIN, and one repaired race team built RSR that was wearing my VIN with my engine. So numbers matched paperwork...

The man clearly had a LOT more money than sense, provenance didn't seem to matter to him at all. If you see the interior of my car, you'll understand that while money really was not in short supply in this, commonsense clearly was.
 
I had the pleasure of having Thomas drive me from Telgte to Dortmund in your car when I bought my own car from him recently, he was doing a final "shake down" road test.

It is the quickest 911 I have ever been in and has a delicious edge (by virtue of the lack of soundproofing) that is completely absent from the modern cars and even the 964 turbos.

Enjoy!

Here is a pic of my car, another from Thomas' stable,
Cheers,
Kevin.

053D667377214684B909240AAF065343.jpg
 
ORIGINAL: kasbridge

I had the pleasure of having Thomas drive me from Telgte to Dortmund in your car when I bought my own car from him recently, he was doing a final "shake down" road test.

Yes he was just on his way to the Ring with a few mates for the weekend !! ............. I think they did a marvelous job on matching the Mercedes paint after !!! [:D]
 
That looks a proper eyeful whatever the provenance.......It wouldn't bother me too much.

Quite possible one of the best looking 911s ever.

need more pictures though

Oh.....and when you get bored of it let me know. TISPKJ has my number.
 
It's got a 928 chassis number, plastic leather seats, roll cage, and carlos fandango wheels !! thinking about putting a 924 motor in it but that maybe too powerful for the chassis [:D]

0F93FB831D64430182271329EAC50371.jpg
 
Rick, I've been watching that car on the H&S website for ages (he must have had it for well over a year), and had been thinking to myself that it was one hell of a lot of car for the money. It looks absolutely fantastic - I love the widebody / fat wheel / no spoiler look - stealth but mean ! Look forward to seeing it in the flesh on track sometime soon ..............

Jamie
 
So Kevin was the mystery "Engleeshman" who has ridden in it from the airport... glad someone is around to vouch for the noise... tough to convey the sense of occasion as u get to 3500 revs and then there is a big sucking of air, a whistle and then a punch in the kidneys so hard it feels like the front wheels are coming off the ground!

Lee, Tom managed to arrange for 2 guys to phone while I was sat in his office asking if I'd changed my mind, one of whom insisted I was given his name and number in case "I didn't like it"... hahahahahahahahahahahahaha (manic laugh...) but if circumstances change, Jennings will have first whisper no doubt.

In the UK? Tougher question at the moment (no least with the bruises following the 600km yesterday on my posterior...)... I've been nominated as reserve driver for a couple of Nissan's museum cars on the hill at Goodwood, if Mr Brabham should suddenly decide he doesn't want to take the Le Mans car up, then I might get a last minute call in which case then... else I'm due over for the 24 hours at Silverstone and might be tempted... you'll be the first guys to know as would love to meet up and compare notes with "the real things".

Pictures? I can bore you all rigid with pictures... note the interior is not pink as it appears in these, something strange with the flash... actually quite a mild red... while the carpet is grey/blue...

See below!

Cheers
Rick




F9249F8B1D7C425BAA78DDDBE8C7AE04.jpg
 
Sure Jennings would get a real car, if he could find a bid for the kettle... now if it just had the steering wheel on the right side Paul..... nah, maybe not!



 
ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Think you got a Bargain......[;)]

Doesn't that depend on the price?[&:] Which was......?

Nice looking car...a bit different with a very unusual history...just how I like them[:D]

More pics...come on we want to see the tarty pink interior[;)]
 
almost loath to post this as car really is nothing like these colours... but gives some idea of the workmanship in the leather and carpet...

83D4CCE133914E13A58C598B17B3422A.jpg
 
and here we go... the only leather roof lined c/s I guess! Again... it doesn't actually look like a t*rts boudoir inside... I promise, no really, it's not pink, it's red...
Going to have to take some pics of my own... check my eyes aren't going... swear I own a grey car with grey blue carpet and red leather interior... ;-)


43E385CFB32043A4B1523FF80AA0D023.jpg
 

Posts made and opinions expressed are those of the individual forum members

Use of the Forum is subject to the Terms and Conditions

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed on this site are not necessarily those of the Club, who shall have no liability in respect of them or the accuracy of the content. The Club assumes no responsibility for any effects arising from errors or omissions.

Porsche Club Great Britain gives no warranties, guarantees or assurances and makes no representations or recommendations regarding any goods or services advertised on this site. It is the responsibility of visitors to satisfy themselves that goods and/or services supplied by any advertiser are bona fide and in no instance can the Porsche Club Great Britain be held responsible.

When responding to advertisements please ensure that you satisfy yourself of any applicable call charges on numbers not prefixed by usual "landline" STD Codes. Information can be obtained from the operator or the white pages. Before giving out ANY information regarding cars, or any other items for sale, please satisfy yourself that any potential purchaser is bona fide.

Directors of the Board of Porsche Club GB, Club Office Staff, Register Secretaries and Regional Organisers are often requested by Club members to provide information on matters connected with their cars and other matters referred to in the Club Rules. Such information, advice and assistance provided by such persons is given in good faith and is based on the personal experience and knowledge of the individual concerned.

Neither Porsche Club GB, nor any of the aforementioned, shall be under any liability in respect of any such information, advice or assistance given to members. Members are advised to consult qualified specialists for information, advice and assistance on matters connected with their cars at all times.

Back
Top