Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[PhilBill]

ORIGINAL: CLIFFWILKINS

ORIGINAL: daro911 New Spyder to the market from a very old name in Lotus circles certainly not Porsche or Spyder ones[] Cliff it's a PDK with Buckets too [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-pdk----------------2010/2776684]http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-pdk----------------2010/2776684[/link] Finished in Carrara White with Black Leather/Alcantara Interior PDK 7 Speed Double Clutch Transmission PCM - Satellite Navigation Carbon Bucket Seats 19" Spyder Alloys Sport Chrono Pack Sports Exhuast Bose Sound System Park Assist Bluetooth PVTS Tracker Red Callipers Red Seat Belts and Door Pulls PORSCHE BOXSTER (987 GEN II) SPYDER PDK 2010 (2010) For sale from Bell and Colvill, in Surrey, United Kingdom £40,995

Cheers Rob I have a friend seeking a PDK with lower mileage he may be interested he has already been to view the GVE Black Spyder. Looks a lower price as well. Will pass it on. Cheers Cliff.

Still have to wait a bit more before I can do the purchase to 'other' issues [8|] Good to see a couple to choose from. Still not driven one! That's next on my list of things to do when the 'other' issues are resolved. Phil

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

E Mail me Phil regards your last post.

 

[DarrellWilson]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: billy1 Problems only arise when posters wish to argue that their spec is "better" (when in fact it's only better for them) and that somehow makes them a better type of "car person" (whatever that means).

I agree. Which is why I don't understand why there are so many responses when one person says buckets alone are best etc. when everyone else knows, because they own or have easily sold their preferred spec, that that is not the case (and have responded previously to the same topic, time and again). It's like déjà vu on here sometimes, well, often times[]

There's two separate debates that keep getting mixed up - 1. are all variants of spec desirable and 2. which will attract the highest price in the future. Clearly all variants are desirable and values are becoming stronger across the board, as evidenced by most cars selling quickly and at price levels higher than previous whatever the spec - good news for us all so there's no point in arguing in the margins of this point. The second debate around which spec will attract the highest price in the future then IMHO collectors looking for an investment will pay the big money. They will be seeking out the cars that are closest to the original concept of a lightweight car. The more bells and whistles that are added (not wrongly for those that desire them) will ultimately make the car less desirable for the collector. From a collectors perspective they will not view all Spyders the same due to the significant spec differences that move cars away from the original concept. Therefore the cars that will attract the premium (above a good growth in general values of Spyders) will be those that are closest to the purist spec and with reasonable mileage. I know some will be quick to say I have a vested interest in saying that, I wish I could claim I had been so forward looking in choosing the car I bought but in truth it was the only white one around at the time that was affordable, but I genuinely believe that's how things will work out.

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: billy1 Problems only arise when posters wish to argue that their spec is "better" (when in fact it's only better for them) and that somehow makes them a better type of "car person" (whatever that means).

I agree. Which is why I don't understand why there are so many responses when one person says buckets alone are best etc. when everyone else knows, because they own or have easily sold their preferred spec, that that is not the case (and have responded previously to the same topic, time and again). It's like déjà vu on here sometimes, well, often times[]

There are so many responses due to the abrasive, divisive and dismissive language used which, unsurprisingly, people object to. Cut that out at source and there would be no problem. It is perfectly possible to believe your spec to be preferable without dismissing others' in such a manner. Indeed, for most of this thread, that is precisely what happens. It keeps going round and round because the same daft points are made using the same tone and language. And, for any new posters or lurkers, leaving such assertions left unchallenged threatens to spin the reality of the situation (which may be the core intention), which is that it is true (and acceptable) for people to have different needs and objectives and that there is no "right" spec.

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: billy1 Problems only arise when posters wish to argue that their spec is "better" (when in fact it's only better for them) and that somehow makes them a better type of "car person" (whatever that means).

I agree. Which is why I don't understand why there are so many responses when one person says buckets alone are best etc. when everyone else knows, because they own or have easily sold their preferred spec, that that is not the case (and have responded previously to the same topic, time and again). It's like déjà vu on here sometimes, well, often times[]

There's two separate debates that keep getting mixed up - 1. are all variants of spec desirable and 2. which will attract the highest price in the future. Clearly all variants are desirable and values are becoming stronger across the board, as evidenced by most cars selling quickly and at price levels higher than previous whatever the spec - good news for us all so there's no point in arguing in the margins of this point. The second debate around which spec will attract the highest price in the future then IMHO collectors looking for an investment will pay the big money. They will be seeking out the cars that are closest to the original concept of a lightweight car. The more bells and whistles that are added (not wrongly for those that desire them) will ultimately make the car less desirable for the collector. From a collectors perspective they will not view all Spyders the same due to the significant spec differences that move cars away from the original concept. Therefore the cars that will attract the premium (above a good growth in general values of Spyders) will be those that are closest to the purist spec and with reasonable mileage. I know some will be quick to say I have a vested interest in saying that, I wish I could claim I had been so forward looking in choosing the car I bought but in truth it was the only white one around at the time that was affordable, but I genuinely believe that's how things will work out.

Only time will tell, but to be honest I think the differences in spec will not lead to a significant spread of prices. It will, I think, mostly come down to mileage (in effect, as it does now). To garage one for ever in the hope that it will become a collector's item is the antithesis of the car. As an "investment" there are many potentially better bets.

 

[homerdog]

ORIGINAL: billy1 There are so many responses due to the abrasive, divisive and dismissive language used which, unsurprisingly, people object to. Cut that out at source and there would be no problem. It is perfectly possible to believe your spec to be preferable without dismissing others' in such a manner. Indeed, for most of this thread, that is precisely what happens. It keeps going round and round because the same daft points are made using the same tone and language. And, for any new posters or lurkers, leaving such assertions left unchallenged threatens to spin the reality of the situation (which may be the core intention), which is that it is true (and acceptable) for people to have different needs and objectives and that there is no "right" spec.

Spot on! However, I don't wish to spoil other posters enjoyment of this (mainly) great thread, so will bite my tongue in future. I assume that is what a lot of you do already! [] Now off to paint my wheel nuts black! []

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: billy1 Problems only arise when posters wish to argue that their spec is "better" (when in fact it's only better for them) and that somehow makes them a better type of "car person" (whatever that means).

I agree. Which is why I don't understand why there are so many responses when one person says buckets alone are best etc. when everyone else knows, because they own or have easily sold their preferred spec, that that is not the case (and have responded previously to the same topic, time and again). It's like déjà vu on here sometimes, well, often times[]

There's two separate debates that keep getting mixed up - 1. are all variants of spec desirable and 2. which will attract the highest price in the future. Clearly all variants are desirable and values are becoming stronger across the board, as evidenced by most cars selling quickly and at price levels higher than previous whatever the spec - good news for us all so there's no point in arguing in the margins of this point. The second debate around which spec will attract the highest price in the future then IMHO collectors looking for an investment will pay the big money. They will be seeking out the cars that are closest to the original concept of a lightweight car. The more bells and whistles that are added (not wrongly for those that desire them) will ultimately make the car less desirable for the collector. From a collectors perspective they will not view all Spyders the same due to the significant spec differences that move cars away from the original concept. Therefore the cars that will attract the premium (above a good growth in general values of Spyders) will be those that are closest to the purist spec and with reasonable mileage. I know some will be quick to say I have a vested interest in saying that, I wish I could claim I had been so forward looking in choosing the car I bought but in truth it was the only white one around at the time that was affordable, but I genuinely believe that's how things will work out.

Only time will tell, but to be honest I think the differences in spec will not lead to a significant spread of prices. It will, I think, mostly come down to mileage (in effect, as it does now). To garage one for ever in the hope that it will become a collector's item is the antithesis of the car. As an "investment" there are many potentially better bets.

In the short term I agree mileage will be the measure of a car and price regardless of spec. I think we all know that![] However, long term as it does with any classic now (whatever that is) it will come down to condition. However, in say 15-20 years time mileage, history will be a factor but CONDITION will be KING!

 

[jdpef356]

Another one in at 911 Virgin http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=used-cars&Keyword=spyder&KeywordCleanedValue=spyder&M=512&Page=1&isExperiment=True

 

[daro911]

They should change their name to Spyder Virgin [] Description ***DUE IN*** Boxster Spyder PDK 7 speed double clutch. First registered 03/08/2011. 11-plate. Finished in Carrara White with Black leather hard backed sports seats, black carpets, dash and fabric roof. Porsche Main Agent service history - Major spark plug service carried out September 2014 (invoice supported). Next service due September 2016 or at 14,500 miles which ever comes first. Unmarked 19" RS Spyder wheels (black with silver circumference), hard backed sports seats, climate controlled air conditioning, Sports Chrono Package Plus with Sport/Sport plus facility and launch control, PCM 3.0 touchscreen Satellite Navigation, USB / Ipod interface, Bluetooth telephone preparation. Rear park assist, leather sports steering wheel, black instrument cluster and chronometer dials, PSM (Porsche Stability Management), body coloured Carrara white centre tunnel and dashboard detailing, on board computer, electric windows/mirrors, ABS, power steering, remote central locking and Thatcham Category 1 alarm/immobiliser. A well optioned Spyder presented in excellent condition throughout. Supplied with all appropriate keys, manuals and literature. Additional images to follow.

 

[zyp]

Spark plugs changed a year early? The services all seem to be cocked up - major should be Sept 2015.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: daro911 They should change their name to Spyder Virgin []

Virgin? Impossible with the amount they have been through![][]

 

[VvrooomM]

The new MANUAL motor arrived yesterday. Golf R, got collected again today as there was a lake in the boot and rear seat soaking!! Less than ideal. Dealer been excellent so far, 64 plate GTD dropped off with every conceivable extra it seems. My manual changes this morning felt labourious compared to the DSG this afternoon. Think these semi auto boxes might be quite car specific I think, almost makes me wish I'd gone lazy, boring, unskilled AGAIN..... with my choice for the Golf.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: zyp Spark plugs changed a year early? The services all seem to be cocked up - major should be Sept 2015.

Agreed but the last owner might have been old school and wanted it done sooner rather than on time! [&o]

 

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: zyp Spark plugs changed a year early? The services all seem to be cocked up - major should be Sept 2015.

Or maybe it's a 2010 car and not a 2011

 

[philnotts99]

Quick clean tonight []

 

[jdpef356]

Whats your guess of Breakdown by colours? Based on 230 cars.[8|] Here's mine:- 141 White 65 Black 12 Red 8 Silver 3 Blue 1 Cream

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: philnotts99 Quick clean tonight []

Why's the bl[][]dy suncap on in this lovely weather[]

 

[daro911]

 

[rob.kellock]

Looking good boys - if a tad grey []

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: homerdog

ORIGINAL: billy1 There are so many responses due to the abrasive, divisive and dismissive language used which, unsurprisingly, people object to. Cut that out at source and there would be no problem. It is perfectly possible to believe your spec to be preferable without dismissing others' in such a manner. Indeed, for most of this thread, that is precisely what happens. It keeps going round and round because the same daft points are made using the same tone and language. And, for any new posters or lurkers, leaving such assertions left unchallenged threatens to spin the reality of the situation (which may be the core intention), which is that it is true (and acceptable) for people to have different needs and objectives and that there is no "right" spec.

Spot on! However, I don't wish to spoil other posters enjoyment of this (mainly) great thread, so will bite my tongue in future. I assume that is what a lot of you do already! [] Now off to paint my wheel nuts black! []

Yep, well said billy1. I take your point entirely.