Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock ORIGINAL: Pistonheads Popped into Porsche Edinburgh today as needing some new seals onthe 964. Chatting to Graeme about our new Spyder and he mentioned they have a Guards Red Spyder coming in today as a trade in. Think he said it was a 2011 with approx 1450 (yep 1450) miles, manual, PSports Exhaust, Sports Chrono, Red dials, Short Shift, Air con and a couple of other goodies. Sold at lunchtime reportedly.

Here is another view from the other side of the pond "There is something very special about the 987 Spyder and I think it will gain iconic status someday! Some here have discounted the conversation I had with Dr. Wolfgang Porsche at the '12 Parade about his immense enthusiasm for this model. He bought a 'Carrara White' one which he keeps at his Zellamsee Austrian estate. But I think it's revealing for a person in his position at Porsche AG! Same for a chat I had with Cass Whitehead, Lead Instructor of the Porsche Sport Driving School in the USA. In 2010, long before I even thought of ordering my '12 Spyder, he told me that a Spyder was the only Porsche in recent times that he had been tempted to buy with his own funds! And he had a fleet of 997's & other models that he drove all the time! Again, that also tells me something about the uniqueness & special driving characteristics of this model! Time will tell about the place the Spyder will hold in the future. But don't sell the Spyder short...literally as well as figuratively!" Saludos, Eduardo Seattle

 

[flat6]

I guess there's 2 ways the Spyder can go with regards to achieving classic status in the future. Either It won't get there because it's not a 911. Or It will get there because it's great and relatively affordable and therefore becomes considered by many as they best option to sink their £40K as £40K doesn't go very far on a new / newer car. So the Porsche AG bosses want them. Chris Harris wants one. There's plenty of discussion on PH about people trying to get hold of one. It's all good signs. Also, if there is a 981 Spyder, and if it as come at the end of the 2nd generation of the 981, then it's a long way off. Will give time for the market to stabilise on ours before a successor comes along (but I still don't think there'll be one[] ) One thing is for sure, the 987 Spyder will find favour amongst as many people as there are cars available. It's pretty cheap to run, great to drive, good looking and exclusive. The 914 has a following after all these years, so I can see the same for the Boxster and so why not even more so for the Spyder in particular.

 

[rob.kellock]

What's a classic? My Dad runs round in a 1996 Rover 114 (ie Metro) when he wants to be incognito and avoid paying "Range Rover tax" - its low mileage, concours condition and he bought it from an ad in a classic car magazine for about a grand. Spyder is always going to be an interesting Porsche - more power, less weight, unique styling and great looks. It has no racing pedigree though. It will be collectible and also has a rather interesting USP. It is, alongside the 997 GT3, the last analogue sports car Porsche made. No electrical power steering, no start/stop, no PDK coasting function, no electric handbrake, no automatic blipping throttle, no automatic hill hold etc. After 981 Boxsters will come with 4 cylinder turbos, hybrids, electric power - who knows? Whether that will ever make it worth anything much more than a 987 Boxster S will need a crystal ball to reveal. It has all the ingredients to be very desirable indeed in the future but I suspect there are too many of them?

 

[flat6]

I hear you Rob. The best thing to do is use it as it was intended, enjoy it and not to save it all for years to come[] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh3A1ERsvY4&sns=em

 

[rob.kellock]

I'd like to think we strike the right balance - go out and have fun in them but after having already lovingly coated them in Zymol wax and give them a clean when we get home. Rev them hard but only when the oil is warm etc. Still buzzing from Sunday []

 

[flat6]

Me too[] Was a bit surprised that whilst our tyre wear was similar on the rears you had significantly more tread on the fronts, whereas my fronts were similar to my rears. Was thinking maybe the Michelins start off with less tread than the Bridgestones but there isn't much in it. I do know the Michelins have shallower tread on the outer edge but the harder rubber compound on the outer edge does last with the rest of the tyre. Some tyre stats here. The website does say that the Russian ratings are subjective being based on ease of use, so i'm not looking at the overall ratings as such. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Autoreview-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

 

[flat6]

Don't know if this illustrates the shallower outer tread on the Michelin vs the Bridgestone

 

[rob.kellock]

If Bridgestones are good enough for Porsche to fit at the factory and are still going well after 14k miles, I'm not too disappointed with those results. []

 

[flat6]

I was mainly looking at tread depth and a little look at things like tyre weight and dry performance. They've put a lot of weighting on wet performance, which puts the table the way it is. The order of the tyres in the table doesn't hold much relevance to me. I'm impressed with the Michelins in the wet and dry, which isn't reflected in those results. Bin it![] As for wet performance, it would appear that daro911 has the wrong tyres as he does purely dry miles and the Goodyears are allegedly optimised for wet[]

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: flat6 I was mainly looking at tread depth and a little look at things like tyre weight and dry performance. They've put a lot of weighting on wet performance, which puts the table the way it is. The order of the tyres in the table doesn't hold much relevance to me. I'm impressed with the Michelins in the wet and dry, which isn't reflected in those results. Bin it![] As for wet performance, it would appear that daro911 has the wrong tyres as he does purely dry miles and the Goodyears are allegedly optimised for wet[]

Typical I get the wet weather kings of the road and mine have never seen water other than from a bucket[]

 

[flat6]

[] daro, when mine a shot to slicks they'll be the ultimate for dry weather and we should swap

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: flat6 [] daro, when mine a shot to slicks they'll be the ultimate for dry weather and we should swap

Trouble is mine started life with 8.5mm and from my past 5 Boxsters fronts go long after the rears so switching flavours would be an expensive exercise for me [&o] I shall have to consider only using the car in the rain

Considered and decided it's a bad idea after all []

 

[flat6]

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: flat6

Not running "THE" wets []

 

[rob.kellock]

Those tunnel pictures always remind me of this story for some reason []

 

[daro911]

Fresh meat to market and this one has seen some mileage on its way there and apparently cheapest car on offer today in UK [] [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-2010/1145068]http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-2010/1145068[/link] Description Boxster Spyder 3.4 (DFI engine) Generation 2. 6 speed manual transmission. Finished in Guards Red with Black leather carbon backed lightweight bucket seats, black carpets and black fabric hood. First registered 14/04/2010. Selling on behalf of its current owner with the balance of an extended Porsche warranty through until 19/04/2014. The warranty is fully transferable to the next custodian and offers massive peace of mind. The lightest car in the range courtesy of aluminium door panels, bespoke engine cover and so on Porsche also upped the ante in the power department sharpening things by a few horse power. What they created was the most honest driving car imaginable. The most incredible thing about the drive is the fact it isn't a harsh banging ride, there is still subtleness and an ability to smooth out the bumps. Looks-wise the 718 inspired engine cover humps give this car the air of a baby Carrera GT and the unique alloy wheels only help it's kerb appeal. 19" Spyder alloys in silver with colour crested wheel centres, PSE (Porsche Switchable Sports Exhaust), Carbon Backed light-weight bucket seats, short shift gear selection, on-board computer CDR-30 in dash CD player/tuner, red seat belts, red centre tunnel and dashboard detailing, black instrument dials, Porsche Sound Package plus, ABS, power steering, remote central locking, PSM (Porsche Stability Management), electric windows/mirrors and Thatcham Category 1 alarm/immobiliser. A future classic? We suspect probably yes. Either way one of the most delightful sports cars on the market. Used for long distance European touring, with a high average speed and a low number of operating hours, mechanical exertion has been light. Currently the cheapest current model Boxster Spyder available in the UK. Lovely provenace, unmolested and totally original with Porsche Main Agent service history from new. Interior, bodywork and wheels are all in excellent condition and needless to say the car drives without fault. The highlight of our current inventory and arguably the best value for money contempory Porsche for sale in the UK today. An absolute bargain !!!. The car is available from £30,995.

 

[Dylan1]

interseting its still £30k with 35k miles and 3 yrs old-augurs well for you guys who use them as fun weekend toys with minimal mileage[]

 

[MrDemon]

I would say that will be sold with in 2 weeks at 30k dealers still want >40k for them

 

[flat6]

Higher than average mileage for a Spyder but still a relatively low mileage for the expected life of the car. Might be just what someone has been dreaming of - a car with a few extra miles to bring it within budget. If it becomes someone's weekend car the mileage won't creep up much further. Someone should snap up a bargain!

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon I would say that will be sold with in 2 weeks at 30k dealers still want >40k for them

The fact it has some decent approved warranty still to go is in it's favour too 34k Motorway miles can be less engine damaging than 10k stop start traffic congested miles so I am told [&o]